<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819</id><updated>2011-09-27T01:06:29.867+10:00</updated><category term='facebook'/><category term='campello'/><category term='video'/><category term='mum'/><category term='dad'/><category term='birthday'/><category term='camera'/><category term='denni'/><category term='zalan'/><category term='kveta'/><category term='car'/><category term='amelia'/><title type='text'>Fruitarian Mango's Journal</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>78</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-8739424270296315158</id><published>2010-12-28T10:41:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2011-01-16T11:24:24.093+11:00</updated><title type='text'>End of an Era..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Well.. I make it sound dramatic, when it's not really anything of great importance. But we just sold our old car. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It'd been sitting on our front lawn procrastinating for well over a month, battery dead, grass growing wild around it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We had initially thought we might possibly keep it and use it for the rougher journeys, but we realised, and rightly so, that we are not a 2 car family, and for the little needs we have (stocking up on fruit at the markets each week), we really couldn't justify have an extra set of wheels sitting around.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For a while also, we thought we may have to pay someone to come and remove the thing. Here in Queensland, cars are more expensive than other states, but surprisingly getting rid of old cars, is not a simple issue. In other places the wreckers will pay you for them, but not here.. here you have to pay them to take them off your hand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fortunately for our little car, it managed to find a new home. We sold it for $50 to some couple who live on 300 acres, that'll use it for purely driving around on their property. $50 was basically given away, especially as it likely had more than that in petrol in the tank.. But it at least us saved us paying $80 for a wreckers to come and scrap it, and at least, too, it will see out the rest of it's life on a farm until it finally dies of whatever it's destiny prescribes..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So yesterday they came and picked it up.. drove it off on it's own steam.. and left the lawn looking bare and forlorn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think for Květa especially, the car holds a lot of memories. She had it before I arrived on the scene, and it had really been a Godsend for her, suddenly making shopping and getting around so much easier.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it's gone now.. End of an Era.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-8739424270296315158?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/8739424270296315158/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=8739424270296315158' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8739424270296315158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8739424270296315158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/12/end-of-era.html' title='End of an Era..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-1193899344627684836</id><published>2010-11-22T08:28:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-11-22T08:28:14.826+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Recent events..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Stuff happening here.. besides the gardening and slow progress book writing, the rainy season seams to be sort of happening now too, making our little garden sprout more than ever, with pawpaws reaching new heights, passion fruit vines spreading out, pumpkin and watermelon plants going wild, and new fruit trees sprouting up from the compost. It's a good time of year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Kveta and I went down to Rene Beresfords memorial last sunday (8 days ago!). He was the guy that was the major figurehead behind that 1990's fruitarian network movement. Producing a quarterly fruitarian newsletter for roughly one decade..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='550' height='557' src='http://i53.tinypic.com/2h6fv2c.jpg' style='max-width: 800px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://mangodurian.blogspot.com/2010/11/rene-beresford-23121928-24102010.html' target='_blank'&gt;Rene Beresford&lt;/a&gt; Memorial (23/12-1928 - 24/10-2010)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It was held on the northern end of trinity beach, and roughly 15 people or so turned up including Zalan, who flew up from Victoria for the occasion, and locals Eddie, Christine, and Robert Lockhart.. Plus some other faces we may had seen in passing, but never actually met, so we made some new friends too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Joining us also, were Kairos and Lindsay, who are a couple of young fruit centered americans over here on an adventure. They were staying with Harley and Freelee down near Brisbane someplace, visited Anne too, and are now hanging out in our neck of the woods. Actually, yesterday we picked them up from fruitopia where they've been sort of wwoofing this past week or 2, and they're spending their last days up here at our place.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lindsay &amp;amp; Kairos are delightful company, and they and I have been for some great little nature outings exploring some local creeks and waterfalls. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i56.tinypic.com/jzdu09.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kairos and Lindsay out for a walk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are some truly spectacular walks not too far from where we live, and plenty of accompanying natural waters..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i51.tinypic.com/14llu3a.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kairos taking a shower&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We stopped at this place for a swim for a while.. truly breathtaking view:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i54.tinypic.com/2jdq4cg.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;great swimming hole &lt;br/&gt;- you've gotta be adventurous to find this one!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Life's good.&lt;br/&gt;hugs,&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-1193899344627684836?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/1193899344627684836/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=1193899344627684836' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1193899344627684836'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1193899344627684836'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/11/recent-events.html' title='Recent events..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i53.tinypic.com/2h6fv2c_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-504212262153965541</id><published>2010-08-26T09:16:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-08-26T09:18:59.843+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Book Progress Report..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Yeah.. I'm enthused and writing again! It's taken me a while to get started, but these last few weeks I have resurrected my book, and it has once more undergone a major transformation and morphed into something different again..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I've decided to focus more on my own life now.. it being so entwined with the philosophical thoughts I otherwise harbor and which will also feature in the book..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I generally sit and write for a couple of hours each morning.. Which perhaps sounds like I'm speeding through it, but isn't actually the case.. Much of the time is always spent rereading through stuff I've already written and rearranging things, adding stuff that I've forgotten, and taking brief notes of things I need to get down.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I no longer have any idea how many pages I've written, as I'm using a straight forward text editor to get my thoughts down, which just shows me one great big long page.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once I'm done with a first draft, whenever that'll be, I'll cut and paste it all into a word processor, and start formatting it as I read through and decide what to and what not to include.. I would guess though that I'm pushing a 150 pages or so.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think you'll find the book interesting, even if it is me saying so.. my life has been incredibly complicated, with all manner of bizarre and unusual occurances that I'm hoping will both enthrall and entertain.. from my daring escape of military conscription, to a year spent in the australian bush.. but, oh my, i'm giving the plot away.. Not to worry, that's just a tiny snippet..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Otherwise, Kveta and I are enjoying our lives, swimming regularly in the Barron river, eating plenty of fruit, and occasionally visiting Fruitopia where often interesting wwoofers pass through..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;More another when..&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-504212262153965541?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/504212262153965541/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=504212262153965541' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/504212262153965541'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/504212262153965541'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/08/book-progress-report.html' title='Book Progress Report..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3339074651607693243</id><published>2010-08-01T11:24:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-08-01T11:44:10.348+10:00</updated><title type='text'>49 today, 400,000 kms, Local Markets, Loan Decline</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;It's my 49th Birthday today.. We've just gotten back from the Tolga market..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After leaving the market, we noticed that the car was just turning over to 400,000 kilometers, so we pulled over to take a picure..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' title='400000 kms' alt='400,000 kms' src='http://i27.tinypic.com/31367w9.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;400,000 kilometers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The car's a 1990 (or '91 ?) white toyota camry station wagon.. Kveta bought it a couple of years before I arrived on the scene, and it's served us mightily well so far... seeing us safely relocated from sydney to the tropics, plus supplied with fruit regularly..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The markets, see, are held in a different town each weekend.. dependent on which weekend of the month it is.. the 1st sunday of the month it's in Tolga, just less than 30kms away.. The 2nd saturday of each month it's in Mareeba, our home town. the 3rd Saturday, it's in Malanda, probably 50kms away, the 4th, it's in Yungaburra, about the same distance as Malanda, and the 5th Saturday (if there is one), it's back in Mareeba again.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' title='chocolate pudding fruit' alt='black sapote' src='http://i25.tinypic.com/nd7f53.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Black sapote/chocolate pudding fruit, from a local&lt;br/&gt;Papua new Guinean womans garden..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The month just gone was pretty unusual in that there were 5 saturdays, and the 1st of this month, today, happens to also be the 1st sunday.. thus, we've just had 2 markets one after each other, and next weekend, no market at all.. unless we go to the atherton market on the coming saturday (a market we generally skip as it's not as good as the others).. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, we've found that the markets are pretty much one of the better ways to stock up on food for the week. They're also a way to meet and get to know local growers.. We already have contact details of a couple of families that grow local fruits spray free, and have been welcomed to get out and visit them and buy directly from their land.. Something we've been lazy about doing as the markets normally see us reasonably well stocked for the week..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='our fruit supply' title='market fruit in our kitchen' src='http://i25.tinypic.com/27yo3tt.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Our kitchen stocked up with fruit.. (Also, not visible, Avos,&lt;br/&gt;cucumbers, black sapote, pumpkin, passion fruit &amp;amp; more&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This morning, at Tolga, we were given a box of pawpaw for free, which is the main reason we drove out there, as we had already been to the mareeba markets yesterday and were otherwise wellstocked..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In our little garden at the moment, we are still regularly eating our home grown tomatoes, and visited frequently by a little local couple of birds.. One woman we know called them "little willy wagtails", but we're not exactly sure what species they belong to.. they like to sit nearby and watch us, and I'm sure sometimes they play a game to see just how close they might get to us without actually touching.. Swooping down and nearly landing on our feet our head, but then flitting off elsewhere, and when we sit down, they come and sit quietly and watch us..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' title='local fauna' alt='willy wagtail?' src='http://i31.tinypic.com/25uqvc9.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;Local little willy wagtail watching me garden&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here's another photo with Kveta holding up a bowl of freshly picked tomatoes to one of our little friend who's probably not that impressed with them, as they seem to prefer fluttering little insects..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' title='kveta feeds wagtail' alt='kveta and wagtail' src='http://i26.tinypic.com/13zmygy.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wagtail watching kveta with bowl of tomatoes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yesterday I was calling him from the house.. trying to mimic their song, and from somewhere out back, one of them was answering my call.. kveta was in the kitchen laughing about it.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once I'd stopped calling, one of them came around to the front of the house, sat on the window sill, sang really loud and cheerfully, and then flew off..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img height='691' width='550' src='http://i27.tinypic.com/ejvrpk.jpg' style='max-width: 800px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kveta with fresh picked tomatoes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On another less cheerful note.. we had a short interview with our bank manager during the week.. We wanted to find out what the chances were that we might be able to somehow borrow money to buy ourselves our much desired piece of paradise.. To be honest, I think we naively entered the bank optimistically thinking that we would at least be able to borrow a couple of hundred thousand, possibly more ..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It turned out that in their eyes, our financial situation and incomes are too low for them to be able to lend us any money.. So the bubble, that was one potential escape route to our future home and garden was burst..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a target='_blank' href='http://i29.tinypic.com/2qjkm1e.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='nature spot swimming hole' title='our local swimming hole' src='http://i29.tinypic.com/2qjkm1e.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;A good place for a swim - at Fruitopia - click to enlarge&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We left the bank pretty saddened, but still optimistic that somehow or another the universe &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; manifest for us a corner of the earth that's rural and next to water with privacy, for much desired naturism practise, and space for untethered fruit tree planting.. Some place with a nice swimming hole, like the one pictured both above and below:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i32.tinypic.com/nurzs.jpg' alt='me at fruitopia swimming hole'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;me at the fruitopia swimming hole a couple of days ago..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3339074651607693243?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3339074651607693243/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3339074651607693243' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3339074651607693243'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3339074651607693243'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/08/49-today-400000-kms-local-markets-loan.html' title='49 today, 400,000 kms, Local Markets, Loan Decline'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i27.tinypic.com/31367w9_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-7110259810381063075</id><published>2010-07-11T09:47:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-07-11T09:50:19.449+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Airport trip..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Last Tuesday, Květa flew back into Cairns again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I figured as her flight landing wasn't scheduled until 18:50, I'd head into Cairns earlier and find a durian or 2 for us to share on her arrival.. However, I guess that just wasn't meant to be, as although I tried 5 or 6 different places, all of them were out of stock.. Bit of a let down as I'd really been looking forward to a durian again, - that creamy sweet deliciousness..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did, however, manage to score some really yummy longan fruits to share..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img width='550' style='max-width: 800px;' src='http://i29.tinypic.com/11ru8oj.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fruitopia Swimming Hole&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, time on my hands still, I'd also prearranged to meet Venant.. He's this raw vegan guy we met at fruitopia after that 80/10/10 gathering that Harley and Freelee organized in December last year (ended shortly before our arrival in the tropics).. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Venant's also famous worldwide for his role in decapitating Xena.. Yep.. He's the Samurai Ninja that finally beheaded the iconic warrior princess, appearing in the last 2 episodes of the long running TV show.. I have to confess that I've actually seen an episode once or twice, although only coincidently as it was never a show I was in to..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we met up around 17:30, and spent an hour or so together chatting. He's currently doing a juice thing, and I think he said it was his 14th day on just juices on that day we met.. He's a great balanced guy with his wits about him, and delightful company.. a pleasure meeting up with him again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He made me a delicious fresh apple juice, and soon afterwards I was headed on to the airport..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I must have got there at roughly the same time as Květas plane landed.. around 18:50, and by 18:55 I was in the airport lounge waiting to meet and great her..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We had our trusty little mobile phones with us that spend most of their times turned off or discharged, but this time were both battery loaded and on.. She rang me within minutes of me getting in to the airport to let me know that she would be last to leave the plane because they'd be pushing her in a wheel chair..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, we were soon in each others arms again, after her &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; long sojourn elsewhere, (zlobila jsi mně K! - byla jsi pryč  aš moc dlouho!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We weren't able to leave the airport immediately as Květa had her own wheelchair with her as luggage that we had to first wait for and pick up. But it didn't take long really, and we were soon in the trusty car driving back up the range toward our temporary stepping stone home in Mareeba..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Munching on longans on the way up and both feeling glad to be homeward bound..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img width='550' style='max-width: 800px;' src='http://i32.tinypic.com/2ni4il0.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Photo taken an hour before driving down to Cairns to pick up Květa&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Květa was, and still is feeling a little run down from all her travelling, and her sleeping pattern isn't full back to normal yet, but will no doubt soon be, and I'm sure she'll be updating &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://fruitariankveta.blogspot.com'&gt;her own blog&lt;/a&gt; again sooner or later.. Letting you all know what she's been up to..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We were at Mareeba Markets together yesterday and fully stacked up with fruit for the coming week..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Papaya, pineapple, tomatoe, cucumber, pumpkin (yes, we haven't done this much before, but we really like them fresh juiced together with tomatoes!), oranges, rockmelon and the infamous chocolate pudding fruit(!).. yum!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hugs to all,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-7110259810381063075?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/7110259810381063075/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=7110259810381063075' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7110259810381063075'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7110259810381063075'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/07/airport-trip.html' title='Airport trip..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i29.tinypic.com/11ru8oj_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-5101039876057136277</id><published>2010-07-01T17:11:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-07-01T19:47:30.801+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Kveta back soon..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Less than a week now until Kveta gets back here.. She's been gone far too long.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Meanwhile I've been hanging out here, visiting Fruitopia twice a week for a bath in the creek.. I find the water there so much more appealing than our "on tap" water which is sadly mightily chlorinated and smells like a swimming pool..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm sure that it must have an effect on the stuff we're growing in the garden, although to be honest, I'm not able to notice that effect.. The cucumbers we've grown are simply delicious..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I've been watching some Derren Brown videos recently..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class='youtube-video'&gt;&lt;object height='385' width='480'&gt;&lt;param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/v/A1Xop411uKE&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name='allowFullScreen' value='true'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name='allowscriptaccess' value='always'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed height='385' width='480' src='http://www.youtube.com/v/A1Xop411uKE&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowscriptaccess='always' allowfullscreen='true'&gt; &lt;/embed&gt;   &lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That guy is simply soo good at whatever it is he's doing.. If you don't know him, he's this English stage performer who works his own brand of mind reading, hypnotic, magic tricks.. I think he really has an ability to get inside the mind of others, including the audience..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He claims to have no psychic powers what-so-ever, and everything is slight of hand, cold reading, NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming), PWA (Perception Without Awareness), hypnotism, mentalism and showmanship. I think I've a rough understanding of some of what he does, but other things he manages to pull off I have absolutely no idea about..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the show I just watched, he manages to get some elderly lady who doesn't play poker, to go up against 5 of the countries top poker players..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class='youtube-video'&gt;&lt;object height='385' width='480'&gt;&lt;param name='movie' value='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBPG_OBgTWg&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name='allowFullScreen' value='true'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name='allowscriptaccess' value='always'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed height='385' width='480' src='http://www.youtube.com/v/vBPG_OBgTWg&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' allowscriptaccess='always' allowfullscreen='true'&gt; &lt;/embed&gt;   &lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Before she does this, she spends a little over a week with Derren, where he trains her for the event.. The result.. she manages to nearly come first out 6 contestants.. Well, she came 2nd, but only because an unlucky card was dealt at the end.. Experts seemed to think that she would have absolutely no chance against the guys she was up against..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In a similar show I've seen previously, he manages in 1 single week to teach this girl to play the piano at such a level that at the end of the week she plays in front of a live audience, at a very high level.. Her training was all done without her even touching the piano once before hand.. Now explain that one!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;hugs,&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-5101039876057136277?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/5101039876057136277/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=5101039876057136277' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5101039876057136277'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5101039876057136277'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/07/kveta-back-soon.html' title='Kveta back soon..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-5275450170984748443</id><published>2010-06-22T16:36:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-06-22T16:36:58.727+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Durian letdown..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;On saturday, just passed, I went to the Malanda market and stocked up on food for the week.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Pineapples, custard apples, papaya, mandarins, tomatoes, persimmons, cucumbers and avos..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I already had a box of oranges back at home, enough to last me the rest of this week, at least, but somehow I felt like I wanted more.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So driving back through Atherton, I stopped off at Woolworths to check out if they had anything appealing... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One sad and lonely little durian caught my eye, and some juicy looking medjool dates.. I can never resist eating a date while browsing the fresh produce, but don't normally buy any, but for a change, I bought a handful, together with the lonesome durian..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The durian was devoured before I'd even got back to base.. First one I'd had for quite a while now.. well.. at least a month say.. (for those of you curious, I'm on me tod at the moment.. Kveta is away visiting friends and family)..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, today, having still the taste of that durian in my mouth, I felt like more.. So I drove back out to Atherton for 2nds.. actually 3rds too.. I bought 2 medium sized ones.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But what a let down! Saturday's one was reasonable, not the best, but satisfying and appealing enough for me to want more, but today's were frankly very disappointing.. watery and flavourless. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Woolies durian are generally pretty crappy up this ways.. They're frozen in Thailand and shipped to Sydney where they arrive reasonably fresh.. but then they have to get them up from Sydney to this neck of the woods, a good 3 or 4 day journey..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And there-in lies the problem.. instead of keeping them frozen for the journey, they are just refrigerated, so by the time they get here, they are all thawed out and past their peek.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I kind of knew that already, and had told Kveta in the past that I don't want any more of them, but, you know how it is when you feel you want something, and saturday's one must have been a freak that was actually flavoursome and good enough for me to return for more..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So.. no more woolies durian for me thanks.. I should save the durian money for a trip to the philipines instead,, or back to Thailand again..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;absolutely delicious custard apples though!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;peace,&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-5275450170984748443?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/5275450170984748443/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=5275450170984748443' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5275450170984748443'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5275450170984748443'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/06/durian-letdown.html' title='Durian letdown..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3289158495402780724</id><published>2010-06-20T13:23:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2010-06-21T15:14:24.997+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='video'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='facebook'/><title type='text'>Facebook angst..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;A short while ago, i posted to facebook the intro to the fruitarian documentary made by Emile with the help of David.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think they did a great job with that by the way, and I'm still looking forward to seeing the finished version of which Emile finished recently (he aired it to a an audience of a couple of hundred or so, and the general feeling was it went down well, sparking the curiousity of many toward fruitarianism..)..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class='youtube-video'&gt;&lt;object height='385' width='640'&gt;&lt;param value='http://www.youtube.com/v/MRsRLZiyH20&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;' name='movie'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;param value='true' name='allowFullScreen'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;param value='always' name='allowscriptaccess'&gt; &lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed height='385' width='640' allowfullscreen='true' allowscriptaccess='always' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' src='http://www.youtube.com/v/MRsRLZiyH20&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;'&gt; &lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- the video above isn't the video I'm talking about, by the way.. that can be seen here:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LzleNRtyRg' target='_blank'&gt;Fruitarian Doco Intro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;anyhow.. like i said, i posted the video onto facebook.. I've had an account since sometime last year, but generally don't go there, as quite frankly it confuses the bijeebers out of me.. I signed up predominantly to hook up with some old friends, and maybe view their photos or videos, and just generally keep in touch.. Certainly, I looked up a fair few old faces I once knew quite well, people that I'm guessing without facebook I'd probably never have heard from again.. So there was a certain degree of success there..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So then, that video got posted, and suddenly my inbox was inundated with friend requests.. I ummed and aahd a fair bit about them.. Only few of the people I'd heard of, and the rest friends of friends, and even some complete strangers..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;this morning i was messing around on facebook again, and made the very rash decision to just befriend everybody.. so i just clicked on each "make friends" button, one after the other.. about 30 or so in all..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;and now i've done that, i'm feeling strangely deeply saddened by the fact.. like i betrayed myself, because i really just wanted to have people i personally "know", like, having met them in the flesh, as friends, and now i've just gone and forsaken my ploy, and got heaps of new friends i don't know.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i'm almost feeling a little like canceling my facebook account as it doesn't exactly bring more joy into my life..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i think i'll just abandon it for a while, and stick to my blogs, that's enough for me.. i feel i don't want to get too involved in much internetwise.. i feel pretty much done with the whole forum thing, and debating my opinion everywhere.. it's like, i feel quite committed and certain of the path i've chosen, and have no doubts that 100% fruitarianism is the right thing for me to be doing right now..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i'm going outside for some sunshine..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;hugs,&lt;br/&gt;mango..&lt;br/&gt;ps hope you enjoy the video i posted here too.. made me laugh as i found myself relating well to it's content..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3289158495402780724?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3289158495402780724/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3289158495402780724' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3289158495402780724'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3289158495402780724'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/06/facebook-angst.html' title='Facebook angst..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3777276345251323922</id><published>2010-05-04T20:23:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-04T20:23:37.947+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Worlds Worst Uncle..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;I'm sure there must be worst ones than me out there.. surely there must be (?!).. I mean, the worlds full of sick crazy wackos that just have to be doing a far worse job at in than I do..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but loonies aside, I do often feel like I've been (and continue being) a pretty rotten one too.. I had no real contact with my brother and his 7 kidded brood as they were growing up. It's easy to try and point the blame elsewhere, but the truth is I never really made any great effort to keep in touch. - after a couple of decades of basically zero communication, we have only very recently begun a correspondence once more.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course it's helped little that we've both been on separate continents all this time.. and it's highly unlikely that we'll ever be living in close proximity of each other ever again.. .. But I'm excusing myself..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today's my niece Amelias 5th birthday, and I've been mulling over the fact that since saying sad and tearful goodbyes to her, some 3 and a half years ago, at the train station in Sheffield, I've basically been completely out of her life.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The few times I've attempted to talk with her on the phone, she's not really cared for any part of it, which of course has been completely understandable, as I doubt she was ever fully aware who was at the other end, and what close friends we'd once been, before I upped and left.. flying off to the other side of the globe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img width='550' title='Me and my old fruitarian buddy Prem Das' alt='Me and Premi' src='http://i40.tinypic.com/2d80xl1.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;me and my old buddy and fellow fruitarian, prem das,&lt;br /&gt;next to rustys market after a durian feast&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course.. I had to leave really.. destiny was calling me impatiently, and despite the heartbreak of leaving behind loved ones, Australia &amp;amp; Kveta were definitely good and necessary moves for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that doesn't stop me feeling sad about having family so far away, and not being around while they grow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's been on my mind lately too, about the possibility of me returning to England to catch up with everyone in 2011, but much as I'm missing folks there, and looking forward to seeing them, I'm also dreading the idea of a trip back to the UK.. numerous things I wouldn't be looking forward to if I were to return.. and I get so attached to our nest here and little garden too.. making it even more difficult for me to leave.. and then there's the who financial viability of a trip back there.. I'm normally an expert budgeter, and feel comfortable with a steady trickle of expenses, - something not compatible with a trip to the other side of the globe!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What to do? only time will tell.. I want them all to come and live over here in Australia!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;happy birthday Amelia!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3777276345251323922?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3777276345251323922/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3777276345251323922' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3777276345251323922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3777276345251323922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/05/worlds-worst-uncle.html' title='Worlds Worst Uncle..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i40.tinypic.com/2d80xl1_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3284061669321722959</id><published>2010-04-11T08:52:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-04-11T08:52:48.119+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Garden progress report.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Well, as life continues to move pretty slowly, movement is not at all so slow in our garden..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first cucumbers we put in as seeds a few days after we got here, are now full of cucumbers that are at that stage where they're ready to be picked and eaten..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img width='550' border='0' src='http://i40.tinypic.com/14c5v2v.jpg' title='Home grown cucumber in our garden' alt='Home grown cucumber in our garden'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Not even 2 months old (from seed) and already ready to eat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yum.. We picked that one yesterday, together with the 2 others in the picture below, and kveta and i enjoyed our first home grown fresh cucumber meal of the season.. !!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img width='550' border='0' src='http://i39.tinypic.com/5kpvme.jpg' title='Cucumbers for dinner' alt='Cucumbers for dinner'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;We ate these 3, freshly picked, yesterday afternoon!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, these are from the first of many seeds we've planted out, and hopefully we should be eating our own cucumbers regularly now throughout the rest of the season.. !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the cucumbers are the sweetest, creamiest cuces we've eaten.. showing us once more the power of vegan organic gardening.. the seeds having been planted in soil thrown onto the top of decomposing fruit skin compost.. and water regularly with my own pea..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the rest of our so far prepared little garden.. the tomatoes are somewhat slower in developing, but several plants are slowly progressing, and quite a few seedlings sprouted around the place too.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The pawpaws we transplanted from fruitopia have all reestablished themselves well, and are powering, together with an abundance of pawpaw seedlings from the best local pawpaw grower in the area (werner from the local markets, who sells a variety called red hawaiian solo.. very sweet, delicious and moreish)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;apart from that, seedling fruit trees are starting to poke their heads from beneath the soil, as the dormant life from the regularly buried compost heaps begin to awaken.. we have several small akee seedlings, and this morning i spotted a durian pushing through the earth.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;now if only we had our own more permanent piece of land! as it is, we still know that probably the maximum length of time we'll be living in this particular rented property is likely to be not more than a year..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but what can you do?! i guess you've got to enjoy it while it lasts, and not be too attached to things.. hopefully by the time we leave, the pawpaw trees will have established themselves well enough for the next tenants to see the value in them and not rip them out, but somehow i think the durian, akee, and other such fruit trees will likely not be so easily tolerated..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3284061669321722959?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3284061669321722959/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3284061669321722959' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3284061669321722959'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3284061669321722959'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/04/garden-progress-report.html' title='Garden progress report.'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i40.tinypic.com/14c5v2v_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-7937885388747007177</id><published>2010-03-23T15:31:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-23T15:32:01.126+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Home internet..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Just short of a week ago, we finally got ourselves reconnected to the internet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It took us a while longer than expected due to a couple of technical issues.. Primarily because we signed up initially with telstra (australias major telephone network owner) internet, but shortly after signing up had a change of feeling about being locked in on their 24 months contract, so canceled that deal before it had really gotten started (which turned out to be lucky, as had the contract already been initiated, we would have been legally obliged to stick with them for 2 full years!!)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;anyhow, as said, we canceled the telstra internet deal, and after the dust had settled on that one, we signed up with TPG instead, and I have to say, so far, it beats telstra hands down.. far faster than the connection we had in sydney with telstra, and only a 6 month contract with the same monthly price..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;so...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img width='550' border='0' alt='me under a jackfruit tree' src='http://i42.tinypic.com/s5i5hu.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;we're back!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;checking our emails regularly, and slowly working through the backlog of stuff that has built up over the past few months of being predominantly offline..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've settled in to our new place ok, and it feels more like home daily, although the lack of features we desire will likely forever be an issue.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;daily existence is taking on its routines.. Fridays we tend to get up early and drive down to rustys market in cairns.. - we're still scoring australian durian every visit, but the season is slowly trickling to a halt though.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;saturdays we generally visit the local market (actually, the "local" market changes location every week, depending on which saturday of the month it is.. like this coming saturday will be the 4th of the month, and the market will be in Yungaburra.. about 50kms drive away from where we're at.. but a ride worth making as we tend to stock up on cucumbers and tomatoes at those markets, locally grown and at prices far below the commercial businesses around the area)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;actually, we stuck some cucumber seeds in the ground pretty much as soon as we got here, and so the biggest plants are already 2 foot tall, or more, and plenty of others at intermittent sizes below that.. also our pawpaw seedlings are looking healthy, and several tomato plants are growing from seed too.. It looks like we'll be eating our own home grown cuces in under 2 months from now.. we juice them daily.. yum..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;also, foodwise, the akee at fruitopia seem to have just gone through a second spurt of fruiting, and we've been fortunate enough to help liberate some of them.. when we can, we are enjoying their cheesy savouriness in abundance.. I definitely feel they are currently my number 2 fruit.. just falling short of the mighty durian.. although no doubt, if we were to have a glut of marrangs or chempadeks, they would be ousted from their 2nd position..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Life's good.. more another when..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-7937885388747007177?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/7937885388747007177/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=7937885388747007177' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7937885388747007177'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7937885388747007177'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/03/home-internet.html' title='Home internet..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i42.tinypic.com/s5i5hu_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-2544469247889973370</id><published>2010-02-23T15:41:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-23T15:41:14.213+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Démenagé</title><content type='html'>So..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We moved in to our new home, as planned, last Thursday..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lifeline people kindly delivered us a few small items of furniture.. A fridge, a sofa, a coffee table, a kitchen table with 2 chairs, a wardrobe and a bed.. Unfortunately the bed is sort of too small for us. Too short, lengthwise for me, and not wide enough for the both of us, so for the time being, we've borrowed a couple of single mattresses from Fruitopia..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, we've also invested in another couple of small tables, a juicer like we had in Sydney, and some small bedding things.. We've also started mosquito proofing the house, by tightly drawingpinning net curtains to the window frames.. A nifty little solution that's far more cost effective than investing in mozzymeshing..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're both very happy to finally have a home of our own. It even has a carport which is keeping the car dry and out of the sun.. (Torrential downpour happening right at this moment folks!) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, while on the subject of the car, I was just noticing how much more petrol we've been consuming since since moving up here, and it's really taking up a far bigger chunk of our monthly expenses than it did back in Sydney days.. I suppose the furthest we travelled there was from our home in Malabar to Kingsford where we generally travelled twice weekly for fruit.. That would've been a round trip of 30 kms or so. Here, we are voyaging to Cairns and back weekly, a round trip of easily 130kms, and often travelling to Atherton and further afield once or twice a week, adding up to considerably more than 70kms per trip.. Not to mention small trips in and out of Mareeba centre, which although that'll be lessened now, as we have moved closer to the centre than Fruitopia was, it's still significant..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we're considering getting some kind of conversion done to the engine to reduce the petrol consumption and instead use one of those water fuel cell things.. To be honest, I really am not mechanically minded at all, but there's this guy at the Saturday markets that has a stall where he claims to be selling something he calls Hydrogen Water Fuel Cell Technology (his business is called "Hydroxyboost").. It's not something that will run your engine 100% on water, which of course is what we'd prefer, but his little device that gets attached to the engine of the car can supposedly increase fuel efficiency by up to 40%, horsepower by up to 20% and reduce emissions by as much as 90%(!).. Bold claims that I would dearly love to believe in, but there's that nagging doubt that it may be all a con.. He claims that in other countries in the world, the US included, the government will actually subsidise the installation of the kit.. Are there any readers that may be able to confirm, or not, that this technology actually does as it claims, and genuinely works??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The claim is that the kit converts the car into a hybrid, of sorts, by using water as a catalyst, once it is broken down to HHO gas.. The guy pushing it certainly seems both genuine and keen and claims that he builds all the devices himself at home and can put us on to others that already have it installed and are reaping the benefits.. I'm enthused, just feel I need to do some more research online first, something we can't do easily yet, as still no internet connection here yet.. Although our phone line did activate yesterday, so internet shouldn't be too far away (we may nip into the library later today to check our emails and stuff, and maybe i'll post this off too)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So yeah, we have a house and garden.. big mango tree and a tamarind tree too.. and Kveta's already planted out some aloe vera, and put down a few small cucumber seeds too.. We've also started burying our compost again, which is, we believe the quickest way to get it to break down back into yummy worm food soil. I think we may head back out to fruitopia for a visit soon, and pick some of their abundant cherry tomatoes to get the seed in the ground here.. Maybe dig up the odd pawpaw seedling if there're any the right size..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're still very much in a state of unpackedness, and still organising here to get things the way we want it.. Kveta's been working hard on the kitchen floor which was left in a pretty filthy sticky state despite cleaners having supposedly been through the day before we moved in..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Powerpoints are few and far between which will mean trailing wires around the place, especially for the internet the phone line is in an odd inconvenient place, but I guess it's an old house, built back in the days when electrickery wasn't so popular as it is today..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rang mum/dad and Helena last night to let them know our new telephone number..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, happy we are..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-2544469247889973370?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/2544469247889973370/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=2544469247889973370' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/2544469247889973370'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/2544469247889973370'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/02/demenage.html' title='Démenagé'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-8675747091295882819</id><published>2010-02-14T07:24:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-14T07:24:39.669+11:00</updated><title type='text'>A new home at last..</title><content type='html'>A home at last..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lots happened this week.. About 2 hours ago, we got a telephone call from the girlfriend of the guy, Peter, up at Ravenshoe, who had previously invited us to house care for him.. He was the guy with the 6 working dogs I've mentioned already, and his is the place that up until recently, we had been hoping to move in to, but had been unable to connect with (we guessed he was working somewhere off the beaten track and his mobile was out of range).. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, she informed us that Peter had had a change of plan, and that instead of us housecaring while he was away, he had decided to put his place on the market, and sell up.. So basically, no Ravenshoe for us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But were we upset? Not in the slightest..!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, we started the week desperately trying to contact him to tell him that we were willing, keen and ready to move in at any time, and left him a text message, and voice mail to indicate such, followed by countless hangup calls all reaching his mail message box..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, the week certainly never seemed bright when it started.. Wednesday we rang the queensland housing office in cairns, and asked them how our application for government housing was progressing, and were told that they were still waiting on some papers from us.. but hang on a sec, let me backtrack some, because the story will be difficult to follow if i tell it from there..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;what happened was, that when we got here, back in december, we first chose the path of believing our home would be relatively easy to find, so we started picking up the twice weekly free advertising newspapers in search of rentals, we also visited many estate agents in all the towns we've passed through on the tablelands, and eventually even got around to writing up some small fliers with our telephone number on (the one here at fruitopia), explaining we were a peaceful couple, available to house or land sit anywhere on the tablelands..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well.. the local advertisements rarely had anything in them that we considered affordable, so mostly they gave us few leads.. - Because we are living on a shoetring budget at the moment, we were only considering rentals around $150 or less, but the cheapest are mostly $200 to $250, so much as there may have been something otherwise suitable for us,the price made us not even consider it..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The real estates have been pretty much the same deal, we've been to lots of them, and the cheapest rental we found was $160 out near some place called Tarzali.. I mentioned it in an earlier post I think.. nice view, but a few things about it made it nonsuitable, including that the house looked like it would be like a sauna inside on hot days..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, sometime in January, toward the beginning, I think, we decided to see if the government could assist us in some way in finding accommodation.. (we were living in government housing in Sydney prior to escaping there).. Mostly it was kvetas initiative I think, in pushing us to get that process started.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We filled out a short form that we picked up from the Mareeba Court House, and they duly faxed/sent it down to the Cairns Housing department.. Some days later, the Cairns office sent us a whole load more of forms to fill out, including getting some kind of support group to verify our status, doctor certificate/form stating the nature of kvetas disability, and more.. We even had to get Ian to write some kind of letter stating that we lived where we currently are, and explaining why we will have to vacate our spot before month end..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, rushed around like blue-arsed flies we did, getting help from some centre in mareeba called "MISC" (Mareeba Information Support Centre), some kind of small house/office that help out people in similar situations to our own.. and waiting forever to see a doctor..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We eventually had it all filled and ready to be sent back, and took it all in to the Mareeba Court House, and dutifully handed it all over to some official there, who then both faxed and sent everything down to the Cairns office.. (that was on either the 18th or 19th of January).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, (I'll soon be up to date, I think!) .. About 10 days ago, we rang housing and asked them the status of our application.. Their answer was that because of our situation, we have been given top priority, and there was nothing more that we could do, but sit back and wait for something to become available..&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;That was a relief!! So we decided, following advice of the MISC place, that the best plan is to ring up the Cairns office each week, and keep bugging them, apparently it'ld help get us pushed through quicker..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, this wednesday just gone, 4 days ago, we once more rang the Cairns office and asked them what our status was.. This time, we were told that they were still waiting on papers from us.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What? I questioned.. What/which papers? They explained the doctors certificate, witness reports, forms we should have filled in and sent back already before the 3rd of February..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I explained as patiently as I could that that stuff had already all been taken care of 3 weeks previously, that the courthouse had received everything from us, and sent it on to them already, and that the week previously I had already contacted their office, and had been informed that there was actually nothing more that we needed to do, and we should just sit and wait patiently..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After much toing and froing on the telephone, we were finally firmly told that no papers had been received from us yet, and there was nothing further they could do until such point that the papers were received by them..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neither of us are fans of bureaucracy, far from it.. In fact, I think both of us have an aversion toward forms and stuff, and to hear this was quite disheartening, especially as we had not taken any photocopies of anything.. So we returned to the courthouse to see if possibly our forms were still there, waiting to be sent.. The court house official (same guy who had dealt with us previously), checked his log book, and confirmed that the papers had been forwarded on the 19th of January. He promptly rang the Cairns housing office, and explained this to them.. They denied ever receiving anything.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So basically, we were given little choice other than to get the stuff filled out and sent off again. This time, though, I think we were given slightly less forms to fill out.. just the basics i think, but fortunately we were able to book in to see the doctor already the following morning, and we were also able to get pretty much everything done and dusted by 9:30 thursday morning.. phew.. record timing.. We then returned to the courthouse with those precious papers, and this time asked them for copies as they had been lost previously.. they did that, and faxed the docs immediately down to cairns (actually, they both fax the docs &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; send them by post!)..  Time of faxing (which they stamped on the photocopies they gave us), 09:52.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That done, we thought that we had done enough for the day, but i suddenly got this recollection of how we were told once that there was some kind of office in mareeba that we could go and register with and they could also help us find lodgings, so not really knowing quite where or what that office was, I honed in on some local council offices..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There in, Kveta and I approached the desk, and asked if they offered any assistance for homeless people, explaining that that might soon be our case if we continued being unsuccessful in finding a suitable place to live.. Explaining also about kvetas spinal cord injury..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We were told there was no emergency accommodation place that they knew of, but were given a lead to go see some guy who ran a sort of employment agency for people with disabilities, saying they believed he may have some ideas to help.. Once there, we nearly decided to give the place a miss, thinking that it was doubtful they would be able to help in anyway, but I told Kveta that I would just nip in quickly and ask some simple questions..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was greeted by a guy named Barry, who as I'd imagined, appeared to have little idea, but he told me to hang on a sec, and disappeared into his office to make a call..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;minutes later, he came out smiling and told me that we should go to some other office in town, and that there would be a woman waiting there to see us in half an hour.. My hopes weren't exactly overly enthusiastic about the idea, but I returned to Kveta, and told her what the plan was, and she agreed to go with the flow and see where it lead us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, the next stop was only around the corner, and I soon got the realisation that this office was in fact the one we had heard of previously that could assist us in finding housing.. It was a barely noticeably office, that apparently keeps irregular hours and rarely open to just wander in, but this lady named Patricia was waiting there for us, and patiently listened as we explained our situation to her..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Miraculously, she smiled and told us she had a place for us.. No fuss, no messing around.. She first described a unit somewhere, which I don't think either of us were that keen on, but when we explained that we needed a bathtub too, she immediately told us of another place that would be available to move in to from next week..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could feel the stress relief valves open up for both of us as she told us this.. She said first she would have to check our status with housing, and she rang them immediatly, and was told that they were still waiting on our papers.. We explained they had been faxed an hour previously, but it appears they had once more gone missing, and the department denied ever receiving them.. Fortunately, this time we had the copies with us, so Patricia took them from us, and told the housing dept she had a copy of everything in her "hot little hands" as she worded it, and told them she would be faxing it down to them again straight away.. Which she promptly did, and after speaking with one guy handling our case down there, agreed that she would go ahead and process us for the house she had available..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She gave us the keys and told us to go have a look at the place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's sort of in a quiet suburb area in Mareeba. a 2 bedroom house with a front and back yard, and a large mango tree in the back yard..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now we both know that this is not exactly the place that will ultimately be manifested for us, but as a stepping stone toward it we are quite content to be given the chance to stay there.. So we agreed to move in.. We need our own space and privacy, and, much as I might like Ian, his sometimes habit of bringing home road kills, wallabies and kangaroos and stuff, and letting them rot around the place has made the air at times unbreathable for us.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I'm side tracking again.. OK.. We returned to Patricia, and asked if she had any idea how we could get the house furnished cheaply.. She was extremely kind and helpful , and wrote a letter for us, that we were told to deliver to some organization called "Lifeline", basically, through public donations of unwanted household stuff, they help out people in similar situations to ours, and they have agreed to fit out our house with the basic basics free of charge.. Bed, table, chairs, fridge, etc..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unbelievable really.. Thursday turned out to be the day of big smiles as everything started to fall into place for us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, I have to say that the house is not exactly everything we've been dreaming of, and that what we do know, is that in every case, it is purely temporary for us.. Patricia says we would likely be moved on within 6 months or less, as housing in cairns would still be searching for a new home for us, and one other organisation based in Atherton, who Patricia is also registering us with, will also be looking out for suitable accommodation for us elsewhere.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because of our low budget lifestyle, and the fact that this organisation is somehow government sponsored, the rent is relative to what we can afford, and after an assessment of our bare incomes, we are quite relieved with it's affordability...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've no idea where our true home is, yet, but the Divine continues to provide as always, and destiny awaits us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We move in to our new home on Thursday (18th).. We'll probably get a telephone installed shortly after, and figure out some way to reconnect ourselves to the wide eyed web..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-8675747091295882819?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/8675747091295882819/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=8675747091295882819' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8675747091295882819'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8675747091295882819'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-home-at-last.html' title='A new home at last..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-579015965830603397</id><published>2010-02-08T08:50:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-08T08:50:25.297+11:00</updated><title type='text'>3rd february 2010..</title><content type='html'>Well, Fruiopia certainly gets its fair share of visitors. Currently, in addition to ourselves, (Kveta &amp; I), and Ian &amp; his dog shelly, there's also MIchelle still staying here (she's canadian, been here more or less since the raw 801010 retreat that finished just prior to our arival in December), there's also a guy named Paul who's staying here, and yesterday, Darrick, who I interviewed on my blog not so distantly, arrived.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul is this 60 year old well traveled dude, former follower of Osho, and mostly living around the Byron area, originally from Ireland..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, turns out he knows a couple of friends of mine from a while back.. Ben, the french instincto, who I've crossed paths with a couple of times, and Asakti, also a former Osho follower.. I'm informed both Ben and Askati who once adamantly stuck to raw, are not eating some cooked stuff too..  (Spoke briefly on the phone with Ben in November I think it was.. maybe October, or September or earlier too though.. no longer sure.. he was back in France, visiting his mother and friends.. mostly he's been living in recent years on Koh Tao in Thailand.. Where he and his partner have built a house that I believe is now up for sale.. Not sure where he is now, and what his plans are)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ben and I met here in Australia.. in fact, not too far from where I now sit.. at my old loved haunt, Mary Farms, where I hung out for in all around 1.5 years, some 12 years or so ago.. At the time there was this big rainbow gathering there, with several hundred people. One morning, Ben had decided to give an impromptu talk on instinctive eating, and I was among his small audience..  After he'd finished, I introduced myself, and he replied something like" Ahh, Mango, I know of a Mango also living in the Pyranees".. and I said to him, "yes, that would be me", and Ben patiently tried to explain that the other mango lived in the pyranees in France, and I insisted that that guy he was refering to, was in fact myself.. As it was.. (I had recently left France to visit Australia, and had arrived on a rarely given 4 year visa, so the mango in the pyranees he knew of, was in fact yours truly).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, back to Fruitopia, and who's currently here.. Yes, Paul.. he's been here for a little under a week now I believe, and I gather plans to stick around for a couple of months or so.. He's a friend of Clintons, and already visited the place on numerous occasions, i gather doing a far bit of work here too. He's into raw foods I think. Including eggs at times too, I believe. I still haven't had that much of a chat with him, but seems like a good guy to be around.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darrick, who's been globetrotting for the past 3 years or so, has also just travelled up from Byron Bay.. He was here in December for the 80/10/10 gathering, but left just before we arrived here, so this is the first time we've met outside of the internet.. He brought with him 2 once frozen, mostly thawed, durian he'd bought in Cairns at an asian store, and generously shared them with Kveta and I.. very nice.. far superior to the frozen durian you get in some woolworth stores here (they seem to defrost and refreeze them or something, and always taste like they are passed their prime.. not enough turnover i guess, unlike sydney that would take them from the freezer in the morning and be pretty sure they would all be gone by late afternoon..)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of his reasons for getting here is to sample the akee, but the rain still seems to have stopped play.. Yesterday morning I checked the trees, but only found one that was open and ready, and when I got back, we discovered it was mostly rotten already.. there're a lot of green ones the rain and wind has knocked off the trees already, and although still a fair few fruit on the trees, many are stung and blackened, and very few appear to be ripening.. Still.. today the sun is shining, and sky's relatively clear, so maybe that'll give them a kick start again..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Darrick tells us that a guy named Robert Lockhardt will be visiting us on Thursday here.. I'm told he's a 65 year old fruitarian who can do walking hand stands.. Apparently he has some land just south of Port Douglas, and grows his own jackfruits and stuff.. Darrick tells me he's up for being interviewed on my blog when he gets here, so maybe another interview on it's way.. Also, Sandrine, one of the last people I interviewed has given me the email of another practising fruitarian in Europe that I can interview.. due to our dodgy internet connect, I've not followed up on that one yet..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3rd February. 2010&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday we finally caught up with that guy, Dave, in Malanda, who had negotiated with us previously concerning the possibility of house sitting his place there.. We had been forever holding out that it may work out, but when we arrived unnanounced on his doorstep (we had no way of getting in touch with him as he never got back to us with his new number after his old phone had been lost), he just told us he had changed his plans.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quite rude, we thought.. no apologies for not ringing us and letting us know (his last message to us had been that we would meet up that same day or shortly after, and discuss the possibility further, and then suddenly no further communication).. So all we could do was turn the car around, and leave.. (The Malanda house is about 1 hours drive from our Mareeba home)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we are still very much in the same situation as previously..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, we did check out a couple of real estates after visiting Dave, and one place had a property we drove out to have a look at.. Just outside of Milla Milla (which in some aboriginal tongue, I'm told, means rain rain, due to the heavy rainfalls it gets).. anyhow, we both loved the place.. nice big house, very private, nice land with a beautiful view in all directions and great soil.. several well established fruit trees on it already, 2 loaded avocado trees and several citrus things.. one passion fruit vine looking a little neglected but baring fruit still.. Definite privacy for naturism.. big sun room. Apparantly Quiet area with no visible neighbours.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The property is available for around $200 a week, which is sort of a little over what we are looking for, but rentals for under $200 a week are saddly few and far between. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow.. down to the real drawbacks.. No furniture.. well that's basically a minor issue, as it'd be easy to get hold of a matress which is all we'd need to get started, and other bits and pieces could slowly be gotten hold of.. However, the real issue would be that the lease is only really short term.. The owners are away, travelling, apparantly around australia, and are scheduled back in less than a year and a half from now.. but that's just a vague plan that could and likely will change, so they could theoretically return in 2 weeks, and suddenly we would be in exactly the same position, but only be under even more pressure to find a place quicker.. also there is a lot of grass needs mowing regularly, and although a sit on lawn mower is provided, if there are any problems with it, it would be up to us to get it fixed, which would be a potential added expense we could basically do without..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;for these basic reason, i think we have already decided to give the place a miss.. a long term lease would be a different issue, where we felt the land was truly ours for a while ,and could get more trees in the ground..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So another no-goer.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We drove home, and discovered a small country house that sells persimmons, so bought a couple of kilos.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, almost forgot to mention that we had another swim at Malanda Falls before heading home, and a picnic of pawpaw and passionfruit.. great spot!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's Helena's birthday today. Happy birthday Helena (she's my sister!)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-579015965830603397?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/579015965830603397/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=579015965830603397' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/579015965830603397'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/579015965830603397'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/02/3rd-february-2010.html' title='3rd february 2010..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-970203562264739562</id><published>2010-02-01T15:01:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-01T15:01:28.257+11:00</updated><title type='text'>29th january..</title><content type='html'>It' the 2nd last day of January 2010, and we're still stuck at Fruitopia uncertain of our short term destiny.. We're in the middle of monsoon, and naturally thankful that the roof over our heads has no leaks..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The hopes to move in to the place in malanda, didn't pan out.. we eventually were gotten in touch with again by the owner, (says he lost his mobile phone and fell in love with a south american girl or something), who once again built up our hopes for a meeting and interior guided tour, but once more failed to follow through, leaving us wondering what happened and no way to contact him..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He reckons he's always like this, and thus not exactly the most reliable of persons, which is fine for him, i guess, not the way i like to be, but maybe he's just more spontaneous or something.. anyhow.. Ultimately we are still very unsure whether or not he is serious about us moving in, and our spirits are apprehensive in trusting him fully.. there is still a chance though. that tiny glimmer of hope that forever prevails..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;apparently we were on TV last night, on the news, some guy at the markets who sells pineapples reckons he recognised me.. it was in connection with some news about possible road blocks due to the wet season and cyclones between here and townsville, that may stop the flow of food produce between here and there.. and the filming was done at rusties market, in cairns.. - we actually noticed that we were being filmed, but just carried on doing what we were doing, choosing our fruit.. So we weren't no big stars, just extras, as it were..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;actually, that reminds me, i need to get in touch with that extras agency i was with in sydney, and tell them i've changed address, and ask if there's any chance of getting any extra work up this end of australia..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;.. i just took a break in writing this, and accomplished the above paragraph.. one less thing to contend with..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;yes.. the markets at mareeba were today.. (they're on the 2nd and 5th saturdays of the month) i'm gathering that there's a far greater turn out of stalls in the winter months, and when the rain is no longer ever present.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the markets are pretty good here, we're getting nice cucumbers, passionfruits sometimes, pineapples, avocadoes and more.. yesterday we were at rusty's market in cairns, and scored several locally grown durian.. 2 of them particularly good, 2 of them pretty lousy..the price varies depending on the vendour, i think there were 4 different sellers this week, with prices between $8 and $10 a kilo.. the best ones we got were $9 a kilo.. quite a bit dearer than the $5 a kilo we were paying in sydney, but worth it for them being local and fresh.. We're keeping all the seed, and many of them are sprouting already in trays.. hopefully we can get some in the ground wherever we end up, and that the climate will change enough for them to flourish on the tablelands..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;we also got one mame (sapote), and a rather large yellow one (sapote - canistel) - both at $3 a kilo.. the canistel is often just too powerful for me, and i can only handle it in very small doses.. i think most of it will get wasted.. we'll have to remember in future to only buy the smaller ones. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NEXT DAY ALREADY.. (Sunday the 31st January, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry, I've had a lot on my mind lately, and much as I have a head full of updates, they're rarely getting blogarised.. As well as the stress of us not having a "home", i have recently sort of reestablish communication with my brother who I've pretty much been out of touch with since the mid 1980s or less.. (time flies!).. i think time has lead us both down very different paths with differing viewpoints and outlooks on life, and it is not without a good deal of, to put it in the best way i can, "challenge", that we have exchanged our first words..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point I'm not 100% sure where things are headed, but I choose to believe that I've done the right thing by getting in touch again, and that what we have to say to each other, is what we both need to hear, even though we might not find our words if there might be a certain degree of challenge in our words..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;my brother has chosen a very academic path, and i like to think of him as a renowned mathematics professor at the forefront of his fields.. he certainly has always been someone that in many ways i've looked up to and admired.. he used to know all the answers on those trivia quiz shows, even the most bizarre geeky ones on university challenge and mastermind.. maybe i'm exaggerating some, but he certainly is a genius on many levels..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;he's done the house and car and wife and kids and dogs and cats thing, with a prestigious job teaching in some college in wisconsin, US, somewhere.. A path I for many years believed would also ultimately be mine, but destiny is a strange and fickle beast and that just wasn't meant to be..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;as far as diet and ethics go, which as you know is a major part of my life, there is little we have in common, i gather he gives only token regard to the role food plays in society, and although he may be aware of certain more obvious issues, like many of the rest of society are, like the bulk, i believe he remains ignorant of the full extent that diet can and does effect us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hey, i'm not by any means saying i have full awareness either, and maybe even the awareness I do have is even flawed, of course, it could be, just i adamantly don't believe it is. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, that's something on going, and after feeling initially quite perturbed by our first emails, i've moved on and decided to be more lighthearted about it, and just see where it leads, and try not to hold too many expectations..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta is often reading the gypsey tarot for us, as we are impatient to be at home, and the cards always show that it is on it's way.. her mum checks regularly for us too, and the cards are always bright and shiny with a most positive outlook.. and at rusty's on friday, there was one woman had a stall reading tarot, and as i walked past, she said pick one, any card, so i honed in on the one i wanted, and it flipped over to be quickly interpreted by her as beautiful house and home surrounded by light.. so it certainly feels like things are looming ahead for us, even though still invisible.. patience mango.. patience..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;anyhow.. no ideas if i'll get to post this today, as i'm doing all my writing, replying, emails etc offline on our trusty laptop, and then copy things to a usb stick and sometimes connect to the internet via an ultraslow dialup internet connection that is constantly flaking out and taking forever to load pages.. quite frustrating, so try not to contend with it too often.. the best thing to use is portable thunderbird for the emails, as i can receive them all at once onto my usb stick, then work with them from our computer later, offline..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;anyhow.. ciao for now,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-970203562264739562?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/970203562264739562/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=970203562264739562' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/970203562264739562'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/970203562264739562'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/02/29th-january.html' title='29th january..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-4310248063820090245</id><published>2010-01-25T18:35:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-25T18:35:32.964+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Still Homeless..</title><content type='html'>Well.. Perhaps I shouldn't really say that.. We have a roof over our heads and are dry, safe, warm and well fed.. If but still somewhat impatient to be "at home".. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've been making efforts to find somewhere we can feel comfortable to be settled for a longer period of time, and scouring the lengths and breadths of the tablelands in doing so.. Which has unfortunately meant burning a lot of fossil fuels in the process.. We dream on of water powered motor vehicles - especially now, here, when there is such an abundance of that kind of wet fuel (we're going through queensland rainy season at the moment.. i think 60 mms of rain yesterday!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The tablelands are breathtakingly beautiful in places, and I'm sorry I'm not posting more pictures.. Not sure if I mentioned but the panasonic lumix camera I bought in June last year, the supposedly "tough" unbreakable one, broke on me.. the little lense cover cracked, not even sure when or how it happened.. but the knock also seems to have damaged the usb connection too, so can't even get the pictures that are on there off..  Well, I could if I make the effort, as the memory card is still fine, I'm guessing, so I do have a little card reader thing somewhere, just buried in all the stuff we haven't yet unpacked (and don't really intend to until we find our home)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;anyhow.. back to the home search thing.. We've had an offer to housecare for a guy named Peter in Ravenshoe (pronounced Raven's Hoe, not Raven Shoe!).. We went out to look at the place.. It's far from ideal, and although the owner would not be there most of the time, he would sometimes, and at times, he would require us to look after and feed his dogs too.. He has a fair bit of land surrounding the house, but so far only a few small scrawny looking trees in the ground at the moment.. He would be open for us to do what we want with the garden/land, and has even told us he'd buy whatever fruit trees we want to plant out.. There're definitely plus points about being there, but we know that they have to be weighed against other issues.. Like, the times when he will also be living there.. Much as he seems like a pretty reasonable guy, his lifestyle is pretty conventional, and I can see him just wanting to sizzle his sausages, take a beer or 2 from the fridge, and plonking himself in front of his big widescreen TV.. Which is ok, I guess, only the house rooms are not that separated that we could circumnavigate his presence..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't mean to give the guy a bad name.. far from it.. i liked him, friendly, welcoming, accepting and i think we'd get on ok, just kveta and i are private people and enjoy and require our own space too much.. neither of us would be happy smelling burning flesh at times either, and the dogs (he has 6 of them), would most certainly be an issue at times too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, we've got until one day next week sometime to get back to him and give him a yay or a neigh.. So that's been at the back of our minds.. (If we were to say yes, we would have to explain to him that the position would be fully temporary, as quite honestly we would ultimatelly still be looking for our own private secluded place.. - actually, that may possibly make him himself decide that we were not suitable..).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK.. meanwhile though, we've had another offer of house caring.. this time in a small village and area we prefer.. a place called Malanda.. A somewhat similar deal, but in a different location, and chickens instead of dogs.. doh! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, we met the owner on Friday at Rusty's market in Cairns. He's a taxi driver in Cairns, most of the time, and originally from Mount Isa, where it's likely he made his fortune in the mining industry.. (mount Isa being a desert, mining, town) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He gave us the address of his place, and on saturday, yesterday, we drove out to take a look at it..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nice views.. nice area.. Big house, and this house looks more sort of divided than the one in ravenshoe, so the privacy thing wouldn't be the same issue at all..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;there's a car port for the car, and nice swimming holes short distances away.. land surrounding the house that could easily be fruit treed. A few visible neighbours around, but in the distance.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He wasn't there to give us a tour of the inside, but the fact that he's just let us stroll around and look at the place shows that he trusts us some, and tomorrow, monday, we'll be driving out to meet him again, and take the interior tour, and hopefully get his ultimate "yay" or "neigh"..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are actually both a little excited about the prospect of moving in there and housecaring, as we both like that area, even though we've been told that malanda isn't the most hottest of areas around this way (mornings in the winter are said to be a bit chilly, but the rest of the day is warm, and a fair amount of rainfall there too, which'd be good for the fruit trees I guess)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK.. what about the downsides.. well.. there's the sharing thing.. ultimately we are looking for our own space to live as we wish, for me especially, I want the privacy to practise naturism as and when the weather permits, and then there's the issue of no dam or creek on the land, something that's in both our visions of the ideal home.. Of course, the chickens thing isn't ideal either, but at least they are more independent, free ranging and don't need regularly letting out of cages and feeding (which would be the case for the 6 dogs in ravenshoe - not to mention the hosing down of their cages etc, and the stuff they'd be fed, which we'd both be very reluctant to handle!)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Malanda home has a great rear view of the valley, but no established fruit trees that I noticed, and it's onlooked by distant surrounding properties..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that it's likely, given our current situation, that if the offer is not withdrawn after our monday inspection, that we will probably move in there, and at least have somewhere we feel more sure of calling home for a while.. Maybe just relax some, finally unpack our stuff, and then use that place as a safe base while we ultimately wait for our true home and piece of paradise, which afterall, may not be with us any day soon (although, it may, too!)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, as coincidences go.. Kveta first came to Australia on the 26th of January 1986, so the 26th would indeed be a nice freaky date to be moving in to that new home.. touch wood..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess life is treating us well no matter how we might otherwise complain or express impatience, things are flowing, and even if we don't end up moving in there, i have no doubt that we'll make it work somehow, and that the Divine truly does provide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango&lt;br /&gt;ps  i wrote this yesterday, but am only just connecting to the internet.. meanwhile we went to see the malanda property, but it was a "no show", the owner never turned up, and after 2 hours, we turned around and came home..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-4310248063820090245?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/4310248063820090245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=4310248063820090245' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4310248063820090245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4310248063820090245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2010/01/still-homeless.html' title='Still Homeless..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-8060689723442240927</id><published>2009-12-31T13:03:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-31T13:03:55.562+11:00</updated><title type='text'>The film crew..</title><content type='html'>Emile, whose project it was to put together the documentary of our relocation and fruitarian lifestyle, and David, his well trusted camera man, were with us from the 6th of December until the 19th, when they left us to drive back down to Sydney, for their scheduled flight out of here back to the US on the 23rd..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've not yet heard from them since leaving, but our internet activity is down to a record minimum (access is via an ultraslow very flaky telephone line, dial up connection here on the farm), and I should really write them a short note to find out how their return trip and flight were..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhows, on arrival they hired this convertible sports car at Sydney airport, but the deal was it had to be returned to the same airport, otherwise they perhaps may have stayed an extra day or 2 or so filming, and then flown down to sydney from cairns.. I didn't envy them leaving and driving down again in such a short space of time. they would have had to do a fair bit of night driving too, to make it in time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;in their convertible, they were able to get some road shots in too, filming us from both behind and in front, and a few overtaking sort of shots..surprisingly they only got pulled over twice by the police (both times in Queensland), and each time they were let off lightly with a warning, I suspect the attitude of the police may have been slightly harsher had they not been so presentable and more hippylike of appearance..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;still, the good thing, for us, was that we were able to drive on and not get involved with the police stuff. I'm not a fan of police, despite no criminal record, and being such a good boy and all that, I still find their presence intimidating, and dislike their authorative tones they brandish.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not sure if I mentioned it before, but Emile first heard of fruitarianism when he ran into Julian on some backpacker place somewhere in central or South America.. Julian, who I had met briefly in central Victoria, roughly 2 years previously, had been on a raw vegan diet, but been inspired to move to all fruit (there's an interview with him on my main blog).. Anyhow, Emile soon came up with the idea to make a doco about fruitarianism, and asked Julian if he would be willing to participate.. Julian decided he was slightly too camera shy, and put Emile in touch with me, and the rest is history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I kind of would have liked to have gotten to know E &amp; D better, but their focus was mainly on getting whatever footage they could, in order to later piece the mosaic together.. In fact, I believe, all up, they took well over 40 hours of film, and the thesis is only supposed to be an estimate of 20 minutes.. I'm certainly pleased that it's not I that is faced with the task of being the button monkey who has to edit it all together in some coherent sense, but very pleased that the doco is being made, and that we had 2 such open minded young guys that were up for the task!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On arrival here, at this place called fruitopia, we were greeted by Ian, already briefly mentioned in a previous post, and his dog Shelly. The farm was otherwise deserted, just days earlier, it had been buzzing with activity as roughly 25, 80/10/10 raw fooders, zoomed in on the place for some kind of, going to perhaps be a regular occurance, raw vegan gathering, organized I gather, by are old friend Harley, his partner Freelea, and a 3rd guy, Nick, the yoga guy.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, although they had disappeared from the scene, over the course of the next few days, the 801010'ers slowly began reappearing again.. The following day, a young american guy named Ryan strolled through together with Michelle (canadian, whose still here on a sort of wwoofing basis) and Chiharo, a cooked japanese traveller also wwoofing and unconnected to the raw vegan happening.. .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shortly after, Harley, over the space of about a week, Freelea and Nick turned up, possibly not quite in that order, another guy named Venant, and Greg and his partner Claire.. We missed out on meeting Darrick who was also one of the guys I interviewed on my blog a while ago, although rumour has it he may be returning before he leaves Australian shores again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, having so many raw vegans turn up eating such a high percentage fruit diet, was fodder for the camera, and E &amp; D got in several hours of interviews with whoever was willing. Probably Harley being the most vocative, as he seems to be born into the whole public speaking thing. (Actually, several of the mentioned names turned up after E&amp;D had left, but they still got their fair share of slightly differing raw food ideas.. Including a lengthy interview with Ian who, as mentioned in a previous post, is on his own version of a raw food diet, based on some guy named vonderplanet, or something somewhat similar.. He basically eats rotten fermented meat, sometimes road kills (kangaroos, possums etc), and probably mostly organic store bought, and allowed to rot.. Raw milk, eggs etc..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He's sort of being influenced by the french instincto movement too, and doesn't mind the occasional maggot, or worm infested piece of fruit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I look at his way of eating as pretty bizarre, and am not surprised that his body got into the toxic state it did, leading him to seek medical intervention.. But he sees things differently, and somehow his body must have built up an immunity to the e-colis and salmonella that probably thrive within.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually though, he's a pretty good guy, and in many ways very open minded and nonjudgemental, so I enjoy his company, despite our current differences in dietary outlook.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, too, I'm sort of beyond really making a big deal about what other people eat or don't eat. I understand that apart from spreading the message some, there is little I can do about others' choices, and understand too, that we are really each of us responsible only for our own actions..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly, Harley has a different stance on that one, and believes it's our responsibility to get out there and tell everyone that they are erring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Partly I can see his point, and really admire the guy for doing what he does, and taking the approach he does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our slight differences toward diet, (i'm thinking now of the 801010ers and Kveta and I), sparked many long and interesting debates about what was right and what wasn't.. We believe they tend to overeat, over drink and push their bodies to extremes that ultimately aren't healthy, they believe we are undernourished, dehydrated, and lethargic, and are highly skepitcal as to whether a solely fruit diet can be maintained over an extended period of time..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I enjoyed the challenge of our discussions, and may write more of them at later dates..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've moved away from the subject of the post.. Well.. I didn't really know where I was headed when I started writing..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think I'll end now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace,&lt;br /&gt;Mango&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-8060689723442240927?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/8060689723442240927/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=8060689723442240927' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8060689723442240927'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8060689723442240927'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/12/film-crew.html' title='The film crew..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-1328380763808504477</id><published>2009-12-30T09:57:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-31T13:05:56.581+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Sydney to Cairns..</title><content type='html'>Well, we left our sydney abode as planned, on the 9th December.. Emile and David, the US doco makers, had arrived in Australia, 2 or 3 days before that, and had had time to film a little of our then suburban surroundings, plus various bits of our habitual lifestyle, followed by packing and final steps toward fleeing the nest, including goodbyes to our neighbours, who all expressed their well wishes, and many, apparent surprise when questioned on their thoughts that we just lived on fruit alone, often acting as if it was complete news to them, despite us having many times mentioned it in passing.. I guess having the camera in ones face makes one more willing to take note.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, the day before departure, Emile, (whose project is to knock this documentary together as part of his thesis at Standford), invested in 2 cheapo, but adequate mobile phones , and a couple of equally fitting pay as you go plans, such that for the journey up, we would be able to communicate if need be, while driving our 2 cars.. (they had hired a car at sydney airport, for the duration of their short 3 week stay here)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We left Sydney, I think it was a Wednesday morning, crossing over the Harbour bridge for hopefully the final time, and headed northbound into the relative uncertainty of the unknown..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The journey was mostly pretty noneventful, with our main focus on getting up here.. However, we did stop off on a few places, like tropical fruitworld, (the big avocado), and a couple of other "big" places.. Emile and David forever tangling themselves in wires to capture the moment on tape, which meant spontaneity often had to take a back seat..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sleeping, for us, me and Kveta, Kveta and I, was mostly done in roadside lay overs off the motor way.. in our once trusty sturdy tent.. (alas, on arrival here, all 6 poles just splintered on us, rendering the tent useless, until we possibly find replacement poles, which we haven't put that great an effort into yet)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;we'd often talk with people, other travellers, as we pulled over, and whenever they were able, the film crew were there to film the interplay of words..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The car was pretty full, with pretty much most of what we needed and desired to take with us, and the only thing we left behind was kvetas wheelchair, which I don't think had been used once since I've been here.. That was left with our neighbour Brian, who stored it in his spare bedroom, and I guess Kveta may pick it up some time in 2010, possibly in conjunction with a European flight back to the CR to visit her family..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhows.. the journey took us roughly 6 days, and roughly 2700, 2800 kms.. Which is sort of what we'd estimated..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On arriving in Cairns, we more or less immediately headed up to Mareeba, where we managed to find this place we're currently staying at.. It's called Fruitopia, and is currently owned by a guy named Clinton who probably spends most of his time down in Adelaide where I gather he owns an organic fruit stall of sorts, with possibly a mish-mash of other stuff that one might expect in most health food stalls..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He wasn't here on arrival, but we were greeted by the caretaker, Ian, a pretty nice guy on a pretty weird diet.. He was suffering at the time with a rather infected throat complaint, rendering it unable for him to really swallow anything, including liquids.. He was quite welcoming despite his clearly dehydrated weakened state, and we were able to set up camp at the back of one of the houses.. However, once we'd done that, I soon realised the state of the tent poles, and gave up all hopes of somehow gluing it back together, so we ended up moving in to one of the rooms of one of the houses, where we're still living, surrounded by all the stuff from the car which has been emptied out around us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(After much thought about what the right thing to do was, Ian finally opted on getting medical help for his throat, and after a quick ambulance trip into cairns hospital and a short sharp treatment of antibiotics coupled with some syringe type throatal intervention, he was soon back able to swallow and slowly regaining his vitality.. - More on his choice of diet later...)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhows, we are still living in the same room. Clearly it's not exactly what we were looking for, and just a temporary place to be for us, as we put out the message, when we can, to whom we can, that we are looking for our own private piece of paradise..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have certain criteria about the place we ultimately desire to be living, and trust that the path to it's hideaway is being manifested as I write. Kvetas mother, having countless times read our fortune in the tarot cards, is without doubt that it awaits us as eagerly as we it..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've written down a manifestation sheet of what we are looking for:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LAND - ASAP (Please!!) With:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Some well established fruit trees.&lt;br /&gt;2, Room for plenty more.&lt;br /&gt;3. Backing on to state forest.&lt;br /&gt;4. Creek, or Dam, or both, with easy access.&lt;br /&gt;5. Gravity feed water. (not reliant on the national water grid with it's fluoride and more chemical poisonings)&lt;br /&gt;6. Flat smooth ground, not rough or too stony.&lt;br /&gt;7. Close to friendly fruit (tree) growers (for easy access to food we aren't growing ourselves).&lt;br /&gt;8. Good soil. Ideal for growing whatever fruits we wish..&lt;br /&gt;9. No Feral pigs, and no swarms of biting insects.&lt;br /&gt;10. Tropical climate with altitude enough to avoid the tsunami.&lt;br /&gt;11. Simple old style, 2 bedroom (or more), house, with a nice covered wooden decking looking on to the garden.&lt;br /&gt;12. Phone line with broadband access.&lt;br /&gt;13. Garage or carport.&lt;br /&gt;14. Privacy for practise of naturism, and free of noise pollution.&lt;br /&gt;15. Easily affordable, or FREE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK.. I guess there is room for some degree of flexibility, and not all the wrinkles need to be ironed out immediately, but that's basically what we are looking for, and after already searching around for the past couple of weeks, and getting the message out there, we do realise that this is one of the more difficult manifestations we've requested, so understand too our need to practise patience, and attempt to remain positive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don't by any means have money to buy such a piece of property, so we're looking initially toward rental, but we're also open to things coming to somehow manifest the money one might need in order to invest in such an ideal place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no greed, we feel that such living is everyones birthright, and we attempt to wait as patiently as capable in order for it to be returned to us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have heaps more to write, but that'll have to wait for another day..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hugs,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-1328380763808504477?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/1328380763808504477/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=1328380763808504477' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1328380763808504477'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1328380763808504477'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/12/sydney-to-cairns.html' title='Sydney to Cairns..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3242703770227154878</id><published>2009-11-14T14:04:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-11-14T14:04:12.920+11:00</updated><title type='text'>laptop down..</title><content type='html'>hi all..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;just a short note that our laptop crashed on us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;we took it in for repairs immediately, and after believing that it would be fixed after a few days, have just discovered that it would actually take another 1 or 2 weeks. I have the laptop back again as we have to decide whether or not it is worth repairing..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, this is my first time on the internet since the laptop broke, (i'm in an internet cafe!) and my email account is pretty full with stuff for me to read through and process..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm afraid it will have to wait, as I'm reluctant to stay here too long. So apologies, once more, for unanswered emails/comments etc..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;meanwhile, kveta and i are still plotting our sydney escape that should become an actuality before the 10th of december..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;kveta has also not been on the internet since the laptop went on us.. I had a couple of blog entries queued to go (on my main blog), that were posted automatically, so it may have appeared as if i was here, online, but actually wasn't..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;anyhow's.. no telling when we will be back in cyberland, but we will be making efforts to get back online as soon as possible..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3242703770227154878?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3242703770227154878/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3242703770227154878' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3242703770227154878'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3242703770227154878'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/11/laptop-down.html' title='laptop down..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-4007850805833235667</id><published>2009-10-28T14:17:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-10-28T14:17:43.905+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Rabbit Proof Fence</title><content type='html'>Watched this very moving sad film yesterday..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Something called &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005JLD4?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=veganfruitari-20&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B00005JLD4"&gt;Rabbit Proof Fence&lt;/a&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/315pd6qDWpL._SL500_AA280_.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's a true story from some 60 odd years ago of 3 young aboriginal children that were forcibly separated from their mothers by the state, in a barbaric attempt (that only ended in 1970!) to somehow eradicate the aborignal race, through interbreeding them with white people..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005JLD4?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=veganfruitari-20&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=B00005JLD4"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/23usv3t.jpg" width="200" align="right"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The girls are taken over 1500 kms from their homeland, where they are then imprisoned with a whole bunch of other kids suffering the same fate..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through bush survival skills, these 3 girls escape the home they are forced to live in, and miraculously (2 of them) find their way back to their mother..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's an incredibly sad movie that had me crying through the most of it, and even now, just thinking of it, the tears are welling up again..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find human behaviour often extremely incomprehensible..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-4007850805833235667?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/4007850805833235667/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=4007850805833235667' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4007850805833235667'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4007850805833235667'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/10/rabbit-proof-fence.html' title='Rabbit Proof Fence'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i38.tinypic.com/23usv3t_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3707305649773826359</id><published>2009-10-26T15:22:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-10-26T15:22:20.828+11:00</updated><title type='text'>First swim of  the season..</title><content type='html'>Last Tuesday (20th October), for the first time this season, I went for a swim in the sea..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As usual, for the time of year, the sea was a little cold, but nevertheless, still very refreshing..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/nmnmrr.jpg" width="550"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta was visiting a friend on that day, so the following day, we set out together to another local beach, and kveta had her first swim of the season too..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's great to get back to beach life, and warmer weather, and hopefully we'll get a few more such days in before we finally up and leave our home here..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;yes.. we are still making slow but sure headway toward leaving here, and setting forth northbound to the tropics..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;tentatively we are currently thinking around the 10th of december, so we'll be there before the silly season starts..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://i36.tinypic.com/359cvb4.jpg" width="550"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;giant butterfly outside our door&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, still that ongoing sifting through things and, often reluctantly, ridding ourselves of material things which we could likely later make us of, but there's really just no simple practical way to relocate stuff to our new home.. especially considering that we don't fully know where we will settle yet..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a lot of unknown ahead of us, and a good exercise in faith.. We will basically be homeless for a while..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We reckon it will take us roughly one week to drive to the area we wish to settle (somewhere inland from cairns).. And a clearly unknown time before we find a place to call home..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wish us luck!&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3707305649773826359?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3707305649773826359/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3707305649773826359' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3707305649773826359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3707305649773826359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/10/first-swim-of-season.html' title='First swim of  the season..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i34.tinypic.com/nmnmrr_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3218697833353151366</id><published>2009-10-05T09:42:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T09:42:04.100+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Rainy days are here again..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;It's drizzling outside, and I just checked the weekly weather forecast for Sydney. Here's what the next few days are predicted to look like:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img width='450' src='http://i37.tinypic.com/2qa7kv8.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wet and unusually cold for the time of year..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But after weeks of dry weather, the garden is surely rejoicing.. We're not really gardening much at all recently, seems like little point as we are counting down the weeks to leave, and no doubt once we have gone, the councel or whoever takes over our little one bedroomed flat, will likely transform what we have anyhow.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When we do garden, we like to do so in a random sort of way, encouraging the biodiversity that such methods support.. Also, we are big fans of mulch, so watering is rarely necessary at all. (besides, all our compost gets buried in small shallow holes, effectively watering the garden from under the ground, as our food/fruit scraps are still very much full ofliquid when buried).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://lh4.ggpht.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/SrW9ZxanhfI/AAAAAAAAAL8/HPSME9Y_H8w/s720/80182f29f71c10bfc1e527fbd0b7a3ea.JPG'&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i33.tinypic.com/soc0n7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Having fun with digital images.. (click to enlarge)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It seems well likely that we may still be in Sydney in December, but rest assured, we have seen our last winter here, and this coming summer will be our last one too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Little else to report.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Progress is being made.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;hugs,&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class='zemanta-pixie'&gt;&lt;img src='http://img.zemanta.com/pixy.gif?x-id=b4db3ad7-fa86-8db3-bc61-3be27fe57f63' alt='' class='zemanta-pixie-img'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3218697833353151366?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3218697833353151366/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3218697833353151366' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3218697833353151366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3218697833353151366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/10/rainy-days-are-here-again.html' title='Rainy days are here again..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i37.tinypic.com/2qa7kv8_th.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-4598072655503994569</id><published>2009-09-24T08:35:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T08:55:50.152+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Sydneys Orange Skies..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;We woke up yesterday morning to find sydney blanketed in an eerie orange/red glow, and like many others, presumed the aliens had come to fetch us..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But no such luck.. looks like we're stuck down here a while longer still..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Meanwhile, it turns out the orange haze was from severe winds in the northern territories and southern australian desert, that drifted over to NSW covering much of it with this weird dust reminiscent of the dust I used to see regularly in Spain (presumably transported from the african sahara), only the orange haze here was incomparably thicker than anything I've ever witnessed before..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;See pictures of this peculiar happening here:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,23607,5060682-5007150-1,00.html' target='_blank'&gt;Sydney's Strange Orange Skies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People were wearing masks out on the street, and emergency wards were flooded with sudden hordes of overweight mucusly clogged up asthma sufferers..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, yesterday, Zalan got back from his Far North Queensland trip, and spent a few hours with us before getting back in to his car and heading south toward his home in central Victoria, - Hepburn Springs..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Meanwhile, too, paperwork and progress headway is slowly being made toward reaching our goal of leaving Sydney.. I have been to the immigration office, and had my passport stamped with my shiny new full residency permit, I've received my National Insurance Medicare card, and I've also gotten myself an Australian (NSW) Driving License.. It's only valid for 1 year, but pointless me getting one that lasts longer as once we change State to Queensland, I'll have to get myself a new license anyway.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Slow progress is also being made within our appartment, and the liberation of the many material junk stuff we have still remnant from our bygone market sundays..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;today the strange orange fog has complettely lifted, and the day's back to a normal blue sunny colour, - just like it should be..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;hugs,&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class='zemanta-pixie'&gt;&lt;img src='http://img.zemanta.com/pixy.gif?x-id=b082f660-d401-8c85-9bac-c71bbc63a1ca' alt='' class='zemanta-pixie-img'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-4598072655503994569?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/4598072655503994569/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=4598072655503994569' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4598072655503994569'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4598072655503994569'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/09/sydneys-orange-skies.html' title='Sydneys Orange Skies..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-1149598727373377805</id><published>2009-09-15T13:47:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-09-15T13:55:32.994+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='amelia'/><title type='text'>Spring's here and the bindis are out..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Funny how one day walking on the lawn is a shear pleasure for ones bared feet, and then suddenly, overnight, that self same lawn becomes so painful to walk on..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, it's bindi season again, and the bindi spikes are suddenly sharpened, pointed and well, just generally spikey.. And such a contrast! - In the season when their spikes aren't out, the bindi plant is very soft under the feet, and a positive delight to walk on..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/3913724000_7e61f014ab_o.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='green tree frog' src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/3913724000_12e63be27a.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Green Tree Frog, smaller than half my thumb, Found in the reeds&lt;br/&gt;(Click to Enlarge)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The frogs are out singing a lot. I discovered this little fellow hiding in the long grass on the local golf course - He was no bigger than half my thumb!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is the same frog:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3436/3912941079_56e191b7c5_o.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='Green tree frog' src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3436/3912941079_3e85a5c35f.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cute tiny green tree frog&lt;br/&gt;(Click to Enlarge)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also the golf course is currently teaming with new little bunnies. I crossed paths with the one in the picture below while crawling through the bushes. He sat startled for a while, allowing me to get 2 meters away and take a photo of it, before hopping off into the undergrowth..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sadly though, the golf course management regularly cull them by spreading the painful cruel death of mixamatosis. Crazy as they are no harm to anyone, and keep their digging to the bushes creating an inconvenience for noone..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/3912943761_3669d53304_o.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='Wild baby rabbit' src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/3912943761_56f46cf63b.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wild Baby Rabbit&lt;br/&gt;(Click to Enlarge)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Kveta and I are excited about leaving Sydney, and making slow headway toward that goal. The car has a cracked windscreen which we need to get fixed. Now that I have my full residency, I need to get an ozzy driving license. We have an apartment half full of junk still, that we are slowly sorting through and getting rid of.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It'll happen..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I've been hearing news about my little niece who's growing up fast and is very clever.. I miss her heaps and feel sad about not seeing her grow up.. I'm thinking I may return to Europe in 2011 for a visit, but would love to see close family migrate here to Australia, and hope that that they be a future possibility..  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2514/3921277459_ae97ce298b_o.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='Amelia' src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2514/3921277459_8773af546a.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Amelia, 1 month ago&lt;br/&gt;(Click to Enlarge)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fruitwise we've got 2 boxes of oranges, some cuces, tomatoes, avos, watermelons, grapefruits and 2 durians..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Life's good,&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-1149598727373377805?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' 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src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/3913724000_12e63be27a_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-1718378911446258717</id><published>2009-09-10T15:24:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2009-09-15T13:57:06.483+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Permanent Residency!!!</title><content type='html'>Hi all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;great news for us here...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just received a letter from the department of immigration who say they are pleased to  inform me that my request for permanent residency has been granted!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well they may be pleased, but we are ecstatic!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs245.snc1/9221_1120933908168_1371665154_30345519_1126947_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;YIPPPPEEEE!&lt;br /&gt;I get to stay down under!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hugs,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-1718378911446258717?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/1718378911446258717/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=1718378911446258717' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1718378911446258717'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1718378911446258717'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/09/permanent-residency.html' title='Permanent Residency!!!'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-906383207455036138</id><published>2009-09-08T15:43:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-09-08T15:43:47.764+10:00</updated><title type='text'>My Mondays..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;On Monday mornings, I drive out to Daceyville..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3898808741_fd48a90c73_o.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='The Cottage Garden I work at' src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3898808741_8ea9ff8475.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;This is the cottage garden&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only takes me between 10 and 15 minutes to get there, and once there, I do an hour or 2 of gardening with Dulcey.. She's this elderly lady who owns a small cottage there, and each year she enters into one of those cottage garden competition things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've been helping her with her garden these past months, to get ready for this years competition and the images here I took yesterday..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2456/3899588482_a8cba368d2_o.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='Pink flower' src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2456/3899588482_1dd7d42a22.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pink flower in Dulcey's garden&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you can see, the flowers are in full bloom right now.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each ear, she gets rid of most of her flowers and turns the garden over ready for the next year, which's what I was doing there to begin with, and then planting all the new flowers..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She normally wins, and has done for the past decade or so, except last year she came 2nd.. She is getting on in years, and finds it difficult to work as much as she used to, so that's where I came into her life..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3899586524_572d91d5b8_o.jpg'&gt;&lt;img width='550' alt='yellow flower' src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3899586524_3633b86bf8.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yellow flower in Dulcey's garden&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After Dulceys' I often walk across the road to another woman called Carmen, and do a little gardening for her too, but I prefer working with Dulcey as she's more hands on than Carmen..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class='zemanta-pixie'&gt;&lt;img src='http://img.zemanta.com/pixy.gif?x-id=2bd065ab-f918-8806-b496-44ce08dd0f15' alt='' class='zemanta-pixie-img'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-906383207455036138?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/906383207455036138/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=906383207455036138' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/906383207455036138'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/906383207455036138'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/09/my-mondays.html' title='My Mondays..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3898808741_8ea9ff8475_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-4527551360490204439</id><published>2009-08-29T16:10:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2009-08-29T16:44:07.474+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='video'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='zalan'/><title type='text'>Kveta singing, and Zalan..</title><content type='html'>Hi all..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just had my friend Zalan drop by for a couple of days.. He's a borderline fruitarian on a raw vegan predominantly fruit diet, living in central Victoria.. He drove up here, and has left his car parked outside while he spends a few weeks up in the Cairns area.. (he took the quick option getting there, and flew up a couple of days back)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3470/3866261053_0f1480dfbd_o.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3470/3866261053_0f1480dfbd_o.jpg" width="550" alt="P1000401" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Me and Zalan, about to enjoy a durian feast&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last time we met, was in Victoria, around Christmas 2006, New Year 2007.. We seem to bump into each other ever couple of years or so..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Zalan's currently focusing on getting a book written on vegaculture.. That's what we'd like to think of as the next step after permaculture, and stands for (permanent/sustainable) vegan agriculture - Basically food production that promotes biodiversity, sustainability and free from any form of animal exploitation, including the usage of slaughtered animal byproducts such as dried blood and bone meal that are frequently used as ingredients in agricultural soil..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His website is: &lt;a href="http://vegadeva.com.au/"&gt;VegaDev.com.au&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I finally bought a memory card for the new camera I got a few weeks back, and this time it works fine.. This is the first video... It's Kveta singing..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lskWYlj8q6I&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lskWYlj8q6I&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-4527551360490204439?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/4527551360490204439/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=4527551360490204439' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4527551360490204439'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4527551360490204439'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/08/kveta-singing-and-zalan.html' title='Kveta singing, and Zalan..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3698974308989953290</id><published>2009-08-15T14:38:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2009-08-15T15:29:07.077+10:00</updated><title type='text'>2 years waiting so far.</title><content type='html'>Well, August the 13th 2007 was the day I lodged the application for my permanent residency... That's 2 years and 2 days ago..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Officially, the application takes 2 years to process, and thus the acceptance date for my full residency is to be 13th August 2009... Only trouble is, as I think I mentioned in a previous post, it may be up to another 90 days before they actually tell me whether I have it or not..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3554/3822570856_af502e1c0b_o.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3554/3822570856_af502e1c0b_o.jpg" alt="Kveta in the Garden" width="550" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta in our little garden&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At least the worst of the wait is over now, and, touch wood, all of the paperwork.. So should be just a question of sitting back and waiting as patiently as we can, for that letter of confirmation to arrive..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK.. recent changes.. and updates.. Not many. Sun's shining.. Oh, I've recently been in touch with a documentary film maker in the US who wants to make a doco on fruitarianism, and is considering featuring kveta and myself in it..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3558/3821766197_9e54a0e7bf_o.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3558/3821766197_9acc415504.jpg" alt="Me Studying" width="500" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;me reading&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Filming wouldn't be until end of this year, and I've told the guy we've really no idea exactly where we'll be by then, but that we are otherwise very keen to be a part of his project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, a guy I used to work with some 20 years ago, Bobby, has generously donated some paypal funds which will go toward getting a newer laptop for us.. This one is on it's last legs and far too slow..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace to all,&lt;br /&gt;Mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3698974308989953290?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3698974308989953290/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3698974308989953290' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3698974308989953290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3698974308989953290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/08/2-years-waiting-so-far.html' title='2 years waiting so far.'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3558/3821766197_9acc415504_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-6321866633385192041</id><published>2009-08-05T12:35:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2009-08-05T13:47:47.859+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Kveta's back, immigration stuff finally sent off..</title><content type='html'>Well, kveta got back punctually. No delays, and all in one piece though of course jet-lagged and with swollen ankles from the journey and over exposure to the air conditioning of the plane (she reacts strongly to air-con)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That was already 6 days ago, last Thursday morning. Since then we've just been relaxing, taking it easy, and feasting on the occasional durian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3790293009_90a271c37c_o.jpg" title="Sunny Winter in Sydney"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3790293009_90a271c37c_o.jpg" width="550" alt="Sunny Winter in Sydney" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the weekend, we set to work finalising those immigration papers I received nearly 2 months ago. The deadline for getting them done and filled out is in about 2 days from now, so it as a bit of a last minute rush thing..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, we had them filled and signed by a GP witness by Sunday afternoon, and the following day, (Monday, 2 days ago), I sent them off by Platinum Express (recorded, registered next day delivery). So hopefully that'll be the last of the paperwork and it's just a question of waiting for that certificate saying I'm a permanent resident..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3510/3791107104_e5c98579b2_o.jpg" title="Mango on The Coast Golf Course"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3510/3791107104_e5c98579b2_o.jpg" width="550" alt="Mango on The Coast Golf Course" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can tell you that it is a great relief to finally have those papers out of my hands and sent of..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, looking through my old paperwork, I see that it was 13th August 2007 that we lodged the residency application, which means, I think, that it'll be the 13th August this year (in just a little over a week) that if all goes well, my permanent residency will be valid from. Excepting that I may not know that for up to 90 days from the date those papers we just sent are received by immigration in Melbourne..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/3790291545_6b5b0307c1_o.jpg" title="Enjoying the Winter"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/3790291545_6b5b0307c1_o.jpg" width="550" alt="Enjoying Winter" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta and I still haven't taken any new pictures since she got back, and the photos she took while in the Czech Republic are still on the camera and USB stick she took with her. We'll get to downloading and uploading some soon enough.. and while still on the subject of cameras, the new one I bought recently is still missing a memory card and i'm still unsure if the problem is with the camera or the card.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had my 48th birthday a few days ago.. We're not really in to birthdays and that kind of stuff, so no big deal.. The sun's shining and the future is looking bright.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-6321866633385192041?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/6321866633385192041/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=6321866633385192041' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/6321866633385192041'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/6321866633385192041'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/08/kvetas-back-immigration-stuff-finally.html' title='Kveta&apos;s back, immigration stuff finally sent off..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3278385180500022308</id><published>2009-07-29T20:15:00.004+10:00</published><updated>2009-07-29T20:38:39.057+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kveta'/><title type='text'>Kveta gets back tomorrow morning!</title><content type='html'>I'm waiting impatiently for Kveta's return..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She gets back tomorrow morning..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/3768737766_7934801164_o.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/3768737766_20734d14bb.jpg" width="550" alt="Sitting on the beach, waiting for Kveta - Click to enlarge" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sitting on the beach waiting for kveta&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seems like she's been gone for ages!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Been cleaning our little flat. Still have heaps of junk here left over from the markets.. We'll have to make a decision on whether to throw it all out or try and sell more of it..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new camera we got is working ok, except that i believe the problem with the memory card may not have been a memory card problem at all.. It could be that the problem is with the camera.. We'll find out soon.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3278385180500022308?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3278385180500022308/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3278385180500022308' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3278385180500022308'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3278385180500022308'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/07/kveta-gets-back-tomorrow-morning.html' title='Kveta gets back tomorrow morning!'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/3768737766_20734d14bb_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3093033346536170505</id><published>2009-07-17T12:45:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-07-17T12:45:12.253+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Rainy day and Tord's book..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Spoke briefly with Kveta on Wednesday (evening my time, morning her time)..  I've been trying to find out how to make 100% free international calls via the internet, with varying degrees of success.. the trouble is that there are several websites that let you make free calls, but they all appear to be just one off trial calls that last between 5 and 10 minutes..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So we ended up chatting via google chat for a while instead.. that is until my internet connection broke..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She's doing ok, and will update her journal once she gets back here and has a few days to settle..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well, today I was going to go sell some balls, but it turned out wet and rainy again, so i gave up on that idea, and been sitting at the computer all morning reading..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img align='right' src='http://ortagubben.jetshop.se/pub_images/large/TordsBokweb_685.jpg' style='max-width: 800px;'/&gt;That is, until the postman got here, and delivered me a package from Sweden.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It was a present from a recent contact I've made on the internet, a guy named Tord Lyseving who's been a fruitarian for 25 years already, and written several books on the subject.. Mostly in Swedish, but also this most recent one in English.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I haven't started on it yet, but it's sitting next to me waiting to be read..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Strange, I thought I knew (or knew of) most of the long term fruitarians out there, and I'd never heard mention of Tord before, - this despite the books he's written, - and only discovered him serendipituously through searching around for forums in norwegian about fruitarianism..  He was the subject of a &lt;a href='http://www.vof.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&amp;amp;t=2887&amp;amp;start=180' target='_blank'&gt;thread on a swedish forum&lt;/a&gt;, which I briefly allowed myself to get sucked in to.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tord has agreed to be interviewed on my main blog, and only yesterday I sent him an interview to fill out, so I'll publish that when it gets back to me..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great stuff! I love reading fruitarian related books, and am eager to get started on this one.. I still haven't read Anne's book, but look forward to doing so one day too..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not sure how you can go about ordering his book(s), but I'll find out soon, and include a review of the book and where one can order a copy, on my main blog.. - once i've done reading it that is..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hugs for everyone,&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3093033346536170505?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3093033346536170505/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3093033346536170505' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3093033346536170505'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3093033346536170505'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/07/rainy-day-and-tord-book.html' title='Rainy day and Tord&amp;#39;s book..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-6281057000578335216</id><published>2009-07-11T18:29:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-07-11T18:29:43.548+10:00</updated><title type='text'>More on the memory card and immigration</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;That memory card for the camera never turned up. The seller didn't answer my emails, and a little research showed me that he/she had disappeared from Ebay. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3477/3708627157_cc8c586267_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Looking back toward the mainland from the island&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I presumed that I had been scammed, and after contacting help on ebay, initiated a refund request via paypal...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Shortly after, I ordered another card, this time slightly smaller, but still a pretty chunky 16gb, also through Ebay.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3708626965_096725cf05_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Looking out to sea&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, I'd counted my losses on the first card, figuring that it's unlikely that paypal would ever refund me as the seller appeared to have disappeared from paypal too.. But then, to my surprise, yesterday morning I got another email from the original seller saying a new card is in the post.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well, I'm not holding my breath, but possibly there are 2 memory cards on their way here..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2599/3708627545_d705cac45e_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Walking on our local little island&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for the immigration stuff, I'm not sure if I said before, but we're having to delay sending any of the paperwork in until Kveta gets back..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This because some of the forms have to be signed by a witness, so not really possible for Kveta to get done overseas.. Kveta gets back on the 30th of this month, 19 days from now, and the forms have to be in by the 3rd of August, so just enough time, and once more it'll be such a relief to get them done fully and sent in.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We may not be able to leave Sydney as quickly as we'd hoped as it looks like it can take up to 3 months more before I am told one way or another whether I can stay.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2445/3708628057_771431da7e_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Next to an old shipwreck&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think it would break my heart if I was told to leave,  and I have no idea what would happen if that were to be the case, so I'm choosing not to go there.. Instead, on the bright side, even if it takes them another 3 months to give me an answer, the official date of my full residency would still be in mid August this year.. I already know that if all goes well, I will apply for citizenship as soon as I am able. Not exactly sure if that would be 2, or 3, years after the granting of my full residency.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Kveta is currently in some small town called decin (still in czech rep), visiting her aunt (mother's sister), and on some weekend course for drawing.. She gets back to her parents place on monday, and because of time difference, I'll not be talking to her until Tuesday morning her time (early evening my time)..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nothing much else to report.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;hugs for all,&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-6281057000578335216?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/6281057000578335216/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=6281057000578335216' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/6281057000578335216'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/6281057000578335216'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/07/more-on-memory-card-and-immigration.html' title='More on the memory card and immigration'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-8172227975395080438</id><published>2009-07-03T17:46:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-07-03T17:46:35.195+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Being outside more..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Well.. the days tick by, and our new camera has arrived, and these past couple of days I've been taking it out with me on my long walks.. Here's on of my first pictures&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3591/3677984510_09e015948a_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Playing with myself&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm a little restricted with it at the moment, as I Ebay ordered a 32gb memory card to use with it, which seems to not work, so I've asked for a replacement that's supposedly on it's way already.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, meanwhile, the camera has some minimal built in memory which allows me to take about 10 photos before it gets full, and that's what I've been playing with..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2645/3683944138_9bc1c0a558_b.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Looking out to sea&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm pretty impressed with it so far, it's a 12mp camera, but because of the current memory constrictions, i've decreased it to 5mps.. and well, i'm really just scratching the surface with it's capabilities.. It looks like it's capable of all manner of fun stuff - a big thick manual I've yet to read!..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These past few days I've been out a lot, walking along the headlands, enjoying the coastline, and occasionally watching the passing whales.. Today I witnessed a pod of about 5 or 6 passing by a few hundred meters from the shore..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2629/3683931978_19c27bf78d_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;At my stall, selling golf balls&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2 days ago, I was walking for roughly 6 hours.. I could hardly believe I was out for so long as the time just flew past..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a consequence of my enjoying the outdoors more than normally, I've been neglecting my &lt;a href='http://mangodurian.blogspot.com' target='_blank'&gt;mangodurian blog&lt;/a&gt;, and frankly feeling a little tired of it.. I feel like I've pretty much said all I've wanted to say in it, and feel I should slowly begin to let go of it..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well, it's not like I've really said everything that I have to say, but I feel I would be better off channeling my thoughts into book form, saying what I have to say, getting it out there, and letting the world make of it what they want..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3039/3684000858_229be35cee_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Watching a pod of whales swim by&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don't think I've any plans to stop this journal.. I kind of like the idea of recording my life for prosperity.. Taking more pics and videos etc..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don't know.. perhaps I am just momentarily tired of the internet.. &lt;br/&gt;peace,&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-8172227975395080438?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/8172227975395080438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=8172227975395080438' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8172227975395080438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8172227975395080438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/07/being-outside-more.html' title='Being outside more..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2645/3683944138_9bc1c0a558_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-922376146734187676</id><published>2009-06-24T15:08:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2009-06-24T17:55:47.149+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='camera'/><title type='text'>Sun's shining + new camera</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;Hi all,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After more than a week of off and on rain, I think it's finally stopped.. The sun's shining outside, and I've just been for a long walk gathering golf balls in the bushes..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not many to be had at the moment, as the players have no doubt been shunning the wet outdoors too, but I still managed to find about 70 on a 3 hour hunt..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta is currently staying with her niece, Romana, (her brother's daughter), and her (Romana's) son.. (still in the Czech Republic, of course).. She's got the camera at the moment (we've only got the one between us), so I've not been taking any new pictures since she's been gone.. But here're a few from a couple of years back, before I'd left England, with me and Amelia..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;img style="max-width: 550px;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/104/278854619_12d51c9f1c_o.jpg" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Me and my little niece in 2006&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm missing taking pictures, so over the last week, I've been doing some online research to find a new camera, and finally decided on one that I've ordered from Ebay.. It's a relatively new model from panasonic that's supposed to be shock, water and dustproof..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's gotten pretty good reviews, so I'm excited to see it in action.. It'll be a while though, as I've yet to pay for it, due to waiting on a bank to paypal transfer..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;img style="max-width: 550px;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/278863104_fcac00ea35_o.jpg" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Amelia and me on the campello beach&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thing the camera is supposed to do, is take HD (high definition) videos, which in all likelihood will soon be the norm in digital cameras, but i think this is the only point and shoot camera, that's waterproof, that does that at the moment..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So hopefully there'll be more videos forthcoming on youtube once I've gotten the hang of it.. - Anything's gotta be better than the one's we've got on there at the moment.. (I'm still not too keyed on how to edit videos, and it always takes me a lot of time trying to figure it out)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;img style="max-width: 550px;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/102/278863026_f1f820a160_o.jpg" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summertime fun, Spain, 2006&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-922376146734187676?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/922376146734187676/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=922376146734187676' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/922376146734187676'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/922376146734187676'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/06/sun-shining-new-camera.html' title='Sun&amp;#39;s shining + new camera'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-8908730398013943913</id><published>2009-06-18T13:46:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-06-18T13:57:37.492+10:00</updated><title type='text'>more red tape nonsense..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Mid winter here.. daytime temps have been averaging between 13 and 16 degrees these past few days.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm still alone here while Kveta is on her hols.. She's just returned from 2 weeks in Turkey with her mother, and is back in the Czech Republic again.. I spoke with her on the phone last night, she had a reasonable time, although the sea was dirty where they were, and a little too choppy. Fruit choice was good enough though, but I think she's decided to go either to Italy or Greece next time, as overall it wasn't exactly what they had hoped.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3636693065_902e1a2c80_o.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;View from a hill on Phuket Island, Thailand - 2004&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;About a week ago, I emailed Anne in Queensland, and ask her some questions about this whole immigration thing (she's from more or less the same part of England as I am, and is about 2 and half years ahead of me, in terms of being here in Australia and dealing with all the bureaucratic nonsense.. - She's already got her full residency, and is even eligible for her citizenship already).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, she put my mind at rest a little about this whole procedure, explaining that things basically seemed to be running well.. And then 3 days ago, I got another fat envelope from immigration, with a list of 5 more things that I need to get done.. I felt nauseous flicking through it all.. I'm not sure why I get so stressed when faced with this paperwork.. Perhaps it's because there's this nagging fear that my application might be refused.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3546/3637505852_ddf10ef4f5_o.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;View from the top of the small mountain above tiger cave monastery.&lt;br/&gt;Near Krabi, Thailand - 2004&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Talking with Kveta helped me relax some, with her reassuring me that it was basically our destiny to be together in tropical Australia, and that her mother, the renowned Tarot Card reader of the Czech Republic (a talent that Kveta has inherited), says that the cards are all good for us. But that doesn't stop me cursing  the folly of humanity that prevents us from travelling as freely as natured and the great white spirit intended us to.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wonder when earthlings will finally grow up and move from the dark side into the light....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-8908730398013943913?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/8908730398013943913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=8908730398013943913' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8908730398013943913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8908730398013943913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/06/more-paperwork.html' title='more red tape nonsense..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-5976114520013774049</id><published>2009-06-08T20:18:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2009-06-24T17:52:24.751+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mum'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='birthday'/><title type='text'>Happy birthday mum!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;Born on this day, 1936, that's 26664 days ago, and makes her 73 today..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3609091261_806b4a3ce8.jpg?v=0" style="max-width: 550px;" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mum in Spain - Christmas 2004&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She's currently in Spain with Dad, for another 10 days or so..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy birthday mum!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Haven't seen either of them since I left England in November 2006,and no idea when I'll see them again..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta's currently in Turkey, with her mum, staying at some place called Alanya - 250 meters from the sandy beach of Kleopatra.. I haven't heard from her since she got there a few days ago.. It's quite possible that I'll not hear from her until she gets back to the Czech republic on the 16th..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've been watching the whales from the headlands with a pair of binoculars I found when I used to look for scrap metal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;life's good.. I'll likely include a photo later, no time right now..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hugs,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-5976114520013774049?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/5976114520013774049/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=5976114520013774049' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5976114520013774049'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5976114520013774049'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/06/happy-birthday-mum.html' title='Happy birthday mum!'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-5124684990246462962</id><published>2009-06-03T12:10:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-06-06T19:11:23.522+10:00</updated><title type='text'>On me tod/Tout seul/aleine hjemme/jenom ja/etc etc.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;&lt;img border='3' align='right' style='max-width: 800px;' src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3590351441_7afd8488af.jpg?v=0'/&gt;Last thursday, 28th May, Kveta sprouted metal wings and faster than the speed of sound, flew toward the czech republic..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her mum was there to pick her up from the airport, and drive her to the sleepy village of Valy where the rest of her family live, not too far from the German border.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, that leaves me home alone to fend the fort.. It feels a little empty without kvetas presence and although I enjoy spending time alone, I'm naturally missing her too..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And these are slow lazy days, raining and windy out, with occasional patches of sunshine that I take advantage of by walking the local golf courses in search of strayed golf balls hidden in the bushes and long grass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today the counsel housing maintenance crew are visiting, doing some work in our small one bedroom flat.. Changes the locks on windows, painting a moldy ceiling and a few other odd bits, so the windows are all fully open right now, and it feels like winter inside.. (Winter officially got started 2 days ago - 1st June is the first day of summer here, down under).. and I can tell you, once more, I am soooo looking forward to leaving this place behind and heading north into the sunshine..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm thinking a lot about that lately.. Sydney is so not the place either of us really wish to be in, but due to the insanity of the world, it's a necessary hindrance while waiting impatiently for paperwork to clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3600295986_56be0cde1a.jpg?v=0' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Crow eyeing our durian jealously&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The car needs work on it still. The front windscreen needs replacing after getting cracked while a friend attempted to fix a leaky roof, and there's definitely some electrical problem as the battery keeps running flat if not used for 24 hours or more.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, I don't think I've much else to report today.. All's otherwise well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hugs to the world,&lt;br /&gt;Mango&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img style='max-width: 550px;' src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3408/3590353397_a2b34e473c.jpg?v=0'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-5124684990246462962?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/5124684990246462962/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=5124684990246462962' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5124684990246462962'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5124684990246462962'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/06/on-me-todtout-seulaleine-hjemmejenom.html' title='On me tod/Tout seul/aleine hjemme/jenom ja/etc etc.'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-4717148819518540521</id><published>2009-05-23T08:46:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2009-05-27T06:58:29.843+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='birthday'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kveta'/><title type='text'>Happy Birthday to Kveta</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Today's Kveta's birthday.. Born in 1957, so that makes it her Her 52nd.. I think we'll go get a durian (or 2) for it later.. It's still early in the day here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/DSC09129.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kveta on Congwong Beach May 24th 2009&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We've been going through a bit of a soggy wet spell this past week or so. Fortunately nowhere near as serious as many places along the east coast has..There'sbeen a few towns flooded and declared disaster zones..Lismore, Grafton, and other places around the Northern Rivers area (An area both Kveta and I have lived previously).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Touch wood, this area we're in now is not proned to floods or other diverse weather conditions.. Any such threat here would most likely come from the sea, being as close as it is..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/DSC09131.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kveta on Congwong Beach 24th May 2009&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, quiet, mostly indoor days here. No one's golfing so no point in looking for balls just yet.. - Looks like the market will be off again for tomorrow.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Only another 5 days before Kveta flies off to Europe, and only about 3 months left before I know whether or not I get to stay!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;not much else to report, I'll add a photo or 2 later [&lt;b&gt;Just added them. 26/5/09&lt;/b&gt;]..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hugs Kveta!!&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-4717148819518540521?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/4717148819518540521/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=4717148819518540521' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4717148819518540521'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4717148819518540521'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/05/happy-birthday-to-kveta.html' title='Happy Birthday to Kveta'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/th_DSC09129.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-7457664327048255645</id><published>2009-05-15T18:27:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2009-05-27T07:03:05.237+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='car'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dad'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='birthday'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kveta'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='campello'/><title type='text'>dad's birthday.. Kveta's new license.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;My dad was born on this day, in the year 1926.. That makes him 83 years old, and embarking now on his 84th..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He and mum, who normally live in England, have gone to Spain for a few weeks holiday, and staying in our bungalow near Campello (half way between Alicante and Benidorm).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think they left the UK just 2 days ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll likely give them a quick call later today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, even though I know you'll likely never read this message, happy 83rd dad! (they no longer have a computer/internet connection in either the UK or Spain).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img style='max-width: 550px;' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/spainleicester/20041109DadMum4.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mum &amp;amp; dad in Spain in March 2004&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back on Ozzy shores, the latest and greatest news is that Kveta has just passed her driving test (this morning - Well done Kveta!!), and now holds a full ozzy driving license.. I'm still driving on my UK one as I'm under no legal obligation to get an australian one until at most 3 months after I get my permanent residency visa (IE not until toward the end of this year) - In fact, until I get my permanent visa, I can only get a provisional australian driving license, which'ld be a waste of money.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, Kveta has already been driving for many years, as she took her test, and passed, back when she was still living in the Czech Republic, but the bureaucracy here makes it compulsory for czech drivers to retake the test..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/DSC05063.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;That white one is ours..&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our car is a toyota camry, especially equipped with hand controls for kveta, so that she can steer, indicate, brake and accelerates with her hands alone..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Touch wood, it appears to be running quite well, but does have some rust issues, and at this very moment, Kveta is visiting a friend of hers called Sunny, who is doing some work on repairing rust damage to the roof (just above the windscreen) of the car. I think the infection is worse than we first thought, and the windscreen has been slightly cracked as a consequence of the work being done on it, and will have to be replaced..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/DSC00353.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Photo taken in 2007 while on vacation in Northern NSW&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're hoping that it'll see us safely relocated to the tropics, so it'll have to knock up at least another few more thousand kilometers..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-7457664327048255645?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/7457664327048255645/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=7457664327048255645' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7457664327048255645'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7457664327048255645'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/05/dad-birthday-kveta-new-license.html' title='dad&amp;#39;s birthday.. Kveta&amp;#39;s new license.'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/spainleicester/th_20041109DadMum4.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3469557134930402663</id><published>2009-05-04T07:00:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2009-05-27T07:04:47.217+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='birthday'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='amelia'/><title type='text'>Happy 4th Birthday Amelia!!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Hi Amelia! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Happy 4th Birthday, and May the Fourth be with you always!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry I can't be there to give you a hug.. Not easy when I'm on the other side of the world and have long since forsaken the traditional 9 to 5 working/wages..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope you have a pleasant day, and that mum takes you somewhere nice for the day! (I believe today is the first day that your dad starts work teaching autistic children, so I'm guessing you won't see him until he gets back from work!)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, sending you lots of love!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From Uncle Mango..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Saturday%202nd%20May%202009/DSC08872.jpg' style='max-width: 550px;'/&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Saturday%202nd%20May%202009/DSC08749.jpg'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3469557134930402663?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3469557134930402663/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3469557134930402663' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3469557134930402663'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3469557134930402663'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/05/happy-4th-birthday-amelia.html' title='Happy 4th Birthday Amelia!!'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Saturday%202nd%20May%202009/th_DSC08872.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-5031121088281124790</id><published>2009-05-04T06:55:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2009-05-04T07:13:56.564+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='denni'/><title type='text'>Denni..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;I think I'm feeling to  take that back what I wrote yesterday, about Denni not exactly being a friend.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It's not true, he is definitely a friend, as well as a neighbour. I do appreciate how he's helped me getting started with the balls and all, and despite his being needy, and suffering from depression, he is on many levels a very kind person.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/DSC07834.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Free Spirited Denni, with his habitual cigarette.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Like I said, he is on a terrible diet, and it truly surprises me that he has managed to survive this long.. I used to tell him all the time that he needs to change his ways and eat more fruit, but I soon realised I was fighting a loosing battle there, his lifestyle, sadly, like most other peoples out there, is immersed in addiction.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/DSC07837.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Denni with his golf balls.. &lt;br/&gt;He's been in the business for many years already&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;he lives in the building opposite ours, and has 2 big dogs that he calls his babies.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='550' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/DSC07850.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Just came out from the bushes with a rucksack full of balls.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;peace to you denni,&lt;br/&gt;mango&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-5031121088281124790?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/5031121088281124790/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=5031121088281124790' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5031121088281124790'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5031121088281124790'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/05/denni.html' title='Denni..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-6814519405403708182</id><published>2009-05-03T16:59:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2009-05-04T07:11:44.267+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='denni'/><title type='text'>May update.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;As always, time is flying, and life is being good to us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta and I have been for a couple of nice walks together recently, that hasn't happened enough in the past, and I'm hoping that we may make a regular thing of it..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm still getting out most mornings of the week, either in search of the golf balls, or to do a spot of gardening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Saturday%202nd%20May%202009/DSC08735.jpg' style='max-width: 600px;'/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kveta and I, out for a stroll along Congwong beach&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kveta will soon be leaving me for a couple of months, as her planned vacation in the Czech Republic draws closer. I'll be home alone, and just enjoying my time doing what I do, and will no doubt be hugging the hotwater bottle again as the temperature is dropping slowly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm still hanging out with a neighbour called Denni. I wouldn't exactly call him a friend as he is very needy, and clearly has mental health issues from long term alcohol abuse.. He's also on the worst diet I've witnessed for some time, and seems to eat little other than chicken wings, chicken liver and bread with salami..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He's the guy that introduced me to the golf ball thing, as he has been selling balls for many many years already..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We go looking for golf balls together sometimes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img width='600' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Saturday%202nd%20May%202009/DSC08859.jpg'/&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A view of Kveta from the sea (I enjoyed a quick swim)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's Amelia's birthday tomorrow. I made her a short video of myself as a present.. Honestly, I think I've been a pretty lousy uncle so far.. My brother has so many children I've lost count of them and would have trouble remembering their names, although I might succeed... I've had little to do with him, or his kids (most of who are adults already, and one at least has children of her own) for many years already. I sometimes wonder if we will ever really see each other again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd certainly like to keep in touch with my sister and her family, and see them again soon, but this whole present, birthday, card thing I am not at all good at.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact the only people I keep in touch with on a pretty regular basis are my parents who I try to call once a week..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align='center'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Saturday%202nd%20May%202009/DSC08860.jpg' style='max-width: 600px;'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Zoomed in on Kveta&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The pictures above were all taken yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace and hugs,&lt;br /&gt;Mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-6814519405403708182?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/6814519405403708182/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=6814519405403708182' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/6814519405403708182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/6814519405403708182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/05/may-update.html' title='May update.'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Saturday%202nd%20May%202009/th_DSC08735.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-5311484698231852743</id><published>2009-04-26T05:37:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2009-04-26T05:37:12.240+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Kveta's new Photo-Blog..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;This is just a quick shout out to let you all know that Kveta has opened another blog where she intends to post regularly photographs from the 2 of us..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her blog can be found here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href='http://fruitariankvetasphotoblog.blogspot.com'&gt;http://fruitariankvetasphotoblog.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoy!&lt;br /&gt;Peace,&lt;br /&gt;Mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-5311484698231852743?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/5311484698231852743/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=5311484698231852743' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5311484698231852743'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/5311484698231852743'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/04/kveta-new-photo-blog.html' title='Kveta&amp;#39;s new Photo-Blog..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-1427969908622903573</id><published>2009-03-17T14:22:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2009-03-17T14:22:30.326+11:00</updated><title type='text'>My interview on ABC radio as a Fruitarian.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Life's treating me well as always, and the days are still flying past incredibly quickly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Kveta has decided to head back to the Czech Republic again this year.. She'll be visiting her parents, sister and other family and friends, plus possibly meet up with some of the czech raw food crew.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She leaves at the end of May, and gets back end of July.. So 2 months all up.. and then, before we know it, I should, if all goes to plan, have my permanent residency visa within just a few short weeks of her getting back.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Meanwhile, I'll be staying put and minding the fort.. I have no problem to keep myself occupied, and have no doubts that time will continue moving at the same pace it always does.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yesterday, I was contacted by my friend Zalan in Victoria. He informed me that ABC radio were looking for a fruitarian to interview live, yesterday afternoon.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, a phone call or 2 later, and I'd signed myself up for a live interview.. First time I've been interviewed on Radio since the day before I left Norway.. Seems like another lifetime ago.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, 16:20 yesterday afternoon, Richard Glover rang me directly from his radio show, and we chatted on air for 7 or 8 minutes..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It was short and sweet, and needless to say, I only got to say a fraction of what needs to be said, but it all went pretty smoothly, and hopefully I managed to get the idea across in a level-headed enough manner to make some people think..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you want to listen to the interview, the ABC website has made it available for anyone to play or even download.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just click on the image below, taken directly from the Australian ABC website:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='http://blogs.abc.net.au/nsw/2009/03/fruitarians---w.html?cid=151268401#comments' target='_blank'&gt;&lt;img src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/FruitInterview.jpg' alt='ABC Richard Glover interviews Mango' title='Richard Glover interviews mango the Fruitarian'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm still occasionally interviewing different fruitarians that I stumble upon online, and posting the interviews on my main blog... Rudolf from Germany/Spain has also interviewed me too, and I'll be posting that interview when I'm done with it, too..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm still selling the golf balls when I find them, here are a couple of pictures from the place where I sit and wait for golfing customers..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='600' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/DSC07620.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='600' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/DSC07622.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;peace,&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;div class='zemanta-pixie'&gt;&lt;img src='http://img.zemanta.com/pixy.gif?x-id=ce371db8-11c7-46b0-96ce-7faf82eb5e5d' class='zemanta-pixie-img'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-1427969908622903573?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/1427969908622903573/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=1427969908622903573' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1427969908622903573'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/1427969908622903573'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/03/my-interview-on-abc-radio-as-fruitarian.html' title='My interview on ABC radio as a Fruitarian.'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-7876382144301498364</id><published>2009-02-12T09:06:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2009-02-12T12:38:26.809+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Counting down the months.. (still!)</title><content type='html'>As many know already, Kveta and I have plans to leave Sydney, and to head north into the tropics.. What's holding us back is still the ongoing processing of paperwork surrounding my permanent visa application, which, touch wood, all appears to be running smoothly.. Should it continue to do so, then I should be all legally set to stay indefinitely down under, hopefully before the end of August.. Which means, that we'll be free to travel in about 7 months from now.. - or less!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, it's not quite as simple as that, as there will be more paper work needed after the visa comes through (my government health insurance papers, ozzy driving license and the like), cancelling bills, figuring out what to do about changes of address etc, and then there's the packing and weeding through the things we'll either take with us, store somehow, somewhere, or discard.. I suspect that that last thing could keep us occupied for a while, but feel quite sure that whatever happens that in 2010 we'll be somewhere completely else.. The tropical unknown..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The recent chinese new year saw the commencement of the year of the ox, the year I was born, I believe, so I definitely feel that things are looking good..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Funny, a while ago, Kveta was reading tarot cards for me, and it came out that she said this lifetime was sort of like a holiday life, for me.. Now the strange thing is, that way back, when I used to be an IBM scientist, I used to often tell one of my best friends of the time, Sigve Zachariassen, that this is my holiday life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img alt="Me covered in mud in a lake in the Czech Republic" title="Lake outside of Marianske lazne" src="http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Czech%20Rep/P7210833.jpg?t=1234305219" border="0" width="611" height="480" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhow, while the days, weeks and months flow silently past, I am indeed enjoying my life as always..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To make money for my daily fruit intake, which as those of you that follow &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://fruitariankveta.blogspot.com"&gt;kvetas blog&lt;/a&gt; must know already, frequently includes: avocados, durians, apricots, nectarines, tomatoes, oranges, cucumbers, chillies, melons, pineapples, mangoes and more, I have extended my job of finding and recycling scrap metal (which has now been downwardly prioritized), and have begun using my early mornings to search through the bushes of a local golf course, where I regularly find around 50 balls (sometimes nearly twice that many!) each morning.. It's a lucrative little business, as many of the balls I find, I am able to sell onward for $1 or more each.. Of course, things are never quite that simple, and there is a good deal of waiting involved between finding buyers, but I'm quite happy with how it's running so far..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The scrap metal thing, I still do, although I have stopped rifling through bins to find aluminum cans.. Especially since the onslaught of the collapse of the world economy, which has brought metal prices very very low, making the job really just not worth the effort anymore.. But, like I said, I haven't stopped with it completely, and should it happen that I come across piles of the stuff, then no doubt I will see it's value, and transport it to the right place.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides, searching for the scrap metal, is what has lead to many of the excellent bric-a-brac finds, and since the beginning of November, Kveta and I have been frequenting a local market, selling other peoples abandoned treasures.. We sell shoes, handbags, glasses, pictures, toys, some electrical goods, like kettles, rice cookers, radios, tvs.. the list goes on.. Not each week is as successful, but it's a fun way to spend our sundays, and anything we can put aside, moneywise, will be going toward helping us escape north to the tropics..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The downside to the market work, is that we only live in a very small one bedroom apartment, and all the stuff we have, is piled high in our small living room, which doesn't make the place look too inviting (to say the least!).. It gets to us both at times, but knowing that it's only temporary, and that every little helps, with those months at times seemingly ticking past like seconds on a clock, - now that makes it all bearable. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday, Kveta and I came off juices we'd been on for a week or so, and stocked up on boxes of fruit, as always.. We also scored a box of figs for $15.. very sweet and creamy!! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I heard from Harmonie recently. She's had a baby, a beautiful little girl called Indigo-Rose...I'm so happy to hear they are both doing well and making the most of each others company.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Australia is suffering in places at the moment.. There's &lt;a href="http://mapvisage.appspot.com/fires/FireMap.html"&gt;fires in Victoria&lt;/a&gt;, supposedly the worst in recorded history, and much of Queensland is said to be under water.. floods everywhere.. Fortunately, NSW is relatively fairing well, and we've had a pretty good summer here in Sydney.. Overall, also, Australia seems to be coping better with the global economy crisis than most or many other countries. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So once more I count my lucky stars, and thank the great white spirit, that I'm here, and that my life is so blessed, that I have been granted insight enough to make the right choices and walk the right path. So few are able to do so, so few can see where fruitful choices have the potential to lead us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eat fruit.&lt;br /&gt;Peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-7876382144301498364?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/7876382144301498364/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=7876382144301498364' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7876382144301498364'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/7876382144301498364'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2009/02/counting-down-months-still.html' title='Counting down the months.. (still!)'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3379287647855928610</id><published>2008-12-20T07:45:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2008-12-20T07:59:17.753+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Time flies, fruit flies..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;I realise I'm not recording my thoughts anywhere near as much as I once did, and I kind of miss doing that.. But having said that, this is by no means a statement of intention to change that.. My days just seem to be full with other things lately.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Preparing for our weekly market stall seems to take all week, and we have really been made aware of just how small our apartment is.. I'm out most mornings, finding things to sell..Treasures from other peoples rubbish.. And rarely does a day pass, where I don't find something of some value.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We've currently got 2 portable TVs in good working order, plus 3 electrical fans, a good computer chair, books, bags and bags of clothing, pots, pans, toys, pictures.. The list goes on and on and on, and we are really struggling to keep things in some degree of order.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In addition, I am still finding and recycling scrap metal, which too, takes up much of my time, as I have to separate things with my trusty tools of screwdrivers, pliers, mallet and scalpels. It's often a very slow process, and with current rates as they are, pays very poorly. I don't keep track of the hours I dedicate to the metal recycling thing, but I do know that I'm getting on average about $25 to $30 per week.. Which might make one question whether it was really worthwhile or not...Still my attitude is that every penny counts, and I'm happy to report that together with the money made at the market, I am just about able to cover my monthly expenses. (plus we are putting aside a little each week and hoping to travel around australia once we are finally free to leave sydney (after my permanent residency finally gets cleared - hopefully by september next year))&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;img border='0' alt='Me in Russia' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/famousfruitarian.jpg?t=1225246732'/&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For several months, I was making our next door neighbour a juice daily. But a couple of months ago she got admitted in to hospital for about 6 weeks. When she came out, she was noticeably bigger than when she went in, and I guess I just gave up on her.. There is a limit to how much responsibility I want to take for other peoples problems, and really her health is clearly her issue, and if she has enough life in her to do her own cooking (which is the case), then she has enough to make her own juices. So I stopped asking her if she wanted a juice, and she's stopped telling me she wants one. Part of me feels a little guilty about not helping more, as I would so much like to see her heal herself, but being realistic, that's pretty unlikely at this stage... So I've stepped back.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I've also been helping out another neighbour lately. A Macedonian guy. He's been acting increasingly more paranoid recently, and suffering apparently from many different bodily pains and complaints. I've lost count of how many times I've repeated to him that his problems all stem from intoxication (decades of alcohol and tobacco substance abuse), and that he needs juices and fruit in his life, to cleanse him internally.. But again I am talking to a wall, and he would much rather be prescribed the multitude of pills he is now on.. The hospital want to keep him in the psych ward, and I think they probably would have if he did not have 2 bigs dogs that he hadn't insisted that no one else could look after them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Really, I am feeling so impatient to get out in the bush somewhere, and open up some kind of healing retreat centre with Kveta.. We still have no idea how we will find, finance or manifest this place yet, but I am sure it will happen. Magic does. I really think that for many people, the only way they will pull themselves out of their destructive life threatening habits, is to get back to nature.. If they can make that step, then there is definitely more of a chance that they will make positive changes..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually, the vast majority of people that have any desire at all, to move to a fruit based diet, would probably need some support at some point in time.. Even myself, I know that I went for some longer periods of months at a time, eating solely fruit, but once I found myself in a lesser state of mind, or environment, I soon found myself eating lettuce, carrots and the occasional slip up of a boiled potato or 2 (all well documented in previous journal entries).. So I guess I can honestly say, that since moving here with Kveta, this has been the longest consecutive period of time that I have been pretty much all fruit. (thankyou kveta!).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This world is just full of so much sickness and suffering.. Probably especially noticeable here as we are living in government housing surrounded by a lot of people that are no doubt sicker than average.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img height='759' width='569' border='0' alt='On the way to minamurra falls - December 2008' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/minamurra.jpg?t=1229719258'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3379287647855928610?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3379287647855928610/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3379287647855928610' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3379287647855928610'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3379287647855928610'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2008/12/time-flies-fruit-flies.html' title='Time flies, fruit flies..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-3701645579028654800</id><published>2008-10-30T16:09:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2008-10-30T16:13:28.670+11:00</updated><title type='text'>Photo Course..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Kveta and I are on a short digital camera course..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm not sure how much we'll really get out of it, as after the first lesson it's easy to see that most of the participants don't really have much experience using them..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is of course, heaps more that we could learn about photography, as neither of us have much know how beyond point and shoot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img border='0' alt='famousfruitarianmango.jpg MpW9pR2pZ5IKcH7KDv02ZQ.jpg picture by mangodurian' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/famousfruitarianmango.jpg?t=1225246760'/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It's a 2 hour session, once a week, one month course (4 lessons in all) and we've all been given some cheap pentax cameras from woolworths to use and learn from..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;we own a sony cybershot camera ourselves, which pretty much suits our needs, but I guess I wouldn't mind one of those more long range things, - maybe later in the movie.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Otherwise things are going well, days are continuing to fly past and seem to be over before they've begun. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We're eating strawberries from the garden, loads of mangoes, mostly blended with orange juice...  and tomatoes, avos and cucumbers most days.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm still collecting scrap metal, but due to the global recession nonsense, I'm getting only 50% of the price that I was just 3 weeks ago.. If I had somewhere to store it, I would just squirrel it away on some corner until the prices become fairer again.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow.Life's good.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Peace,&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-3701645579028654800?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/3701645579028654800/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=3701645579028654800' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3701645579028654800'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/3701645579028654800'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2008/10/photo-course.html' title='Photo Course..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-8279187841433802605</id><published>2008-10-04T15:19:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2008-10-04T15:19:39.777+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Seems like summer's here..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;I guess any of you that follow &lt;a href='http://fruitariankveta.blogspot.com/' target='_blank'&gt;kvetas blog&lt;/a&gt; know that she arrived back safe and well, and that we have been enjoying some hot beach days, braving it into the cold sea..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The sudden change in seasons, accompanied by some brief rain showers has really added some zest to our little garden, everything is growing so fast, and if things go to plan, I'm hoping that we'll be well stocked with tomatoes throughout the coming months..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I need to get some cucumbers started too, and maybe a few capsicums as well..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm so looking forward to moving north to the tropics, and getting an abundance of pawpaw and passion fruit growing.. both grow fast in the tropics, and should be yielding quite easily within 2 years.. sooner if they are well cared for.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I know summer has not officially started here yet, but we've already had several 30 degree plus days, and the forecast is that it will be a hot one this year.. which reminds me that I mustn't forget to get some melons in the ground too.. I think I'm going to just go for rock melons this year.. we had a fair few watermelon last year, but they weren't the sweetest, whereas the one or 2 rockies we had were very tasty.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm doing a lot less on the computer these days, decided to stop concentrating on my blogs, and be outside more. A good decision.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The one thing that I do need to get done, and that has taken me far too long already, is that darned book I'm always postponing. The truth is I started on it again in August, and worked on it some up until the laptop crashed on me, but I've not looked at it since then.. I think I'm still floating around 100 pages so far.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;my sort of job , recycling scrap metal yields all kinds of treasures.. It's amazing what people throw out, it really is.. I may have already said, I found a TV discarded that's big and would have cost several hundred dollars new, that we are using now, that woks just fine.. I've found several mobile phones, at least one of which works as the recharger was discarded with it.. Of course, they are lacking functional sim cards, but if ever I decide to get a mobile, one of the ones I've found will probably do me just fine.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, there's all kinds of good stuff to be had from the bins, I'm just hanging out to find a bag full of money we can use to buy prime tropical land in Far North Queensland for fruit tree growing. I'm sure that that happens every now and again..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;peace,&lt;br/&gt;mango.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-8279187841433802605?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/8279187841433802605/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=8279187841433802605' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8279187841433802605'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/8279187841433802605'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2008/10/seems-like-summer-here.html' title='Seems like summer&amp;#39;s here..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-9164872998867971852</id><published>2008-09-18T10:11:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2008-10-04T14:43:20.637+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Giving thanks..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;I really have to say, that today is such a wonderful day!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The sun is shining, the air is clean here, and the garden is green with seedlings.. The strawberries are flowering, and the tomatoes are looking healthy..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have so much to be thankful for in this life of mine.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I know I might complain sometimes, that I don't have this or that, but the truth is, I really have it all. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have a woman who loves me despite my many faults.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm living in Australia with every chance of being able to relocate to the tropics here, (once the political immigration side of things is fully done and dusted) and find a good rich soil place to settle and focus my life on fruit tree growing and other positive aspects in a world otherwise laden with crazinesses. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have a fantastic job, if one can even call it that.. Checking the bins, for scrap metal.. Sitting in the sunshine with a screwdriver and pair of pliers. No one to tell me what hours, or what uniform. If it's raining and cold I can sit inside with a hot water bottle, but summer is in the air, and those days are mostly over..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I've traveled lots, seen lots, learned lots, and give thanks to all those things. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe in the power of manifestation, and the principles behind "The Secret", that positive thoughts materialise in positivity! I have proved this to myself countless times, even before I had even heard of the "the secret"..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Life is good, and getting better for each day, and I thank you all for being part of it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hugs,&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;br/&gt;PS Kveta gets back home tomorrow!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-9164872998867971852?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/9164872998867971852/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=9164872998867971852' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/9164872998867971852'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/9164872998867971852'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2008/09/giving-thanks.html' title='Giving thanks..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-2591382327720611683</id><published>2008-09-09T18:40:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2008-09-09T18:47:47.473+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Brief rundown of the past month or so..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Hi all,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well.. it's been an interesting month or so for me..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As I've mentioned already, Kveta is holidaying in Europe.. Predominantly at the village and house of her parents and sister's family in the Czech republic, but also she's spent some time on the Greek Isle of Zakynthos, together with her mum.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I speak to her fairly regularly on the phone, so we're keeping each other updated.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Myself, I've been home alone, missing her, of course, but still enjoying life on me tod.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='132' height='292' border='0' align='right' alt='White Flame on a La Perouse beach' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/DSC00053.jpg?t=1220948400'/&gt;Toward the beginning of last month, I met up with White Flame (&lt;a href='http://mangodurian.blogspot.com/2008/02/interview-with-fruitarian-3-white-flame.html'&gt;Interviewed here&lt;/a&gt;). He's got himself a 2 year student visa for studying here in Sydney.. We didn't pick the best day fo a rendezvous , it was a little cold, windy and intermittent heavy rain.. I showed him a couple of our local beaches, we managed a couple of brisk walks and avoided getting soaked for the most of it...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As I've also mentioned, the laptop died on me at one point. Leaving me offline and disconnected for a while.. I think it did me good.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm not one that gets easily bored, and seem to always find something to occupy my mind and time with, and not having the internet, meant I was obliged to focus a certain amount of my time elsewhere..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe I've actually found myself a source of income. The flood gates aren't exactly opened, but  definitely a steady trickle.. I've mentioned it before, but never really fully realised the potential - It's the scrap metal recycling thing I wrote of a while back. I've started going for walks around all the local area, checking the footpaths and bins for discarded metal objects.. Pretty much anything except steel.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The real money seems to be in copper, which the scrap metal yards will pay around $6000 a tonne for.. ($6 a kilo - obviously I'm talking Ozzie dollars here).. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Such a difference to that junk mail delivery job I did for a month or so before coming to my senses.. (Yikes! Sometimes I'm soo slow!).. This time, I'm rescuing rubbish from being thrown into land fills.. Old TV sets, computer monitors, discarded aluminum cans and door frames, window frames, pots and pans, electrical leads (PVC coated copper), car radiators, car batteries, transformers etc etc.. .. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;img width='130' height='290' border='0' align='right' alt='me on the same beach' src='http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/mangodurian/Australia/DSC00055.jpg?t=1220948342'/&gt;Every time I see a drinks can, I think there's 1 and half cents.. And shoot, I know that's not much, but like I said, it's a trickle, and these past few weeks I've been getting between $30 and $50 a week from it.. Actually just under $60 for the last lot..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The plus side is I'm entirely my own boss.. I can leave the house when I want to, no one complains that my feet are unclod or hair and beard feral.. It's easy, and for the most part just means either walking and collection, or just sitting with a hammer and screwdriver in the sunshine..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The downside is I've cut my hands up some, but have invested in a pair of cotton gardening gloves which are hopefully preventing that kind of bother..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm not after making a material fortune in this life, but I am after an abundance, and really I wouldn't need to be making much more than I do to consider it an abundance.. So long as all my monthly expenses get covered (very meager amount), and a little extra for travel and (the everything else encompassing) stuff..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The garden is really taking off. There's a bumper crop of broad beans, that for a while I thought where just flowering but not actually producing any beans, but I see now many small beans forming).. Heaps of tomato seedlings that I've put into beds, everything being fed from all the fruit scraps that get buried regularly throughout the whole garden, and of course the seaweed I collect, and thick layers of mulch that make watering pretty much unnecessary.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm sure there's more. Oh yes, almost forgot.. Had another 3 hours of work as an extra.. delicate nature.. I got paid $200.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh and yes, I've been in touch with the local community building administration people, and suggested I give a talk on Natural Hygienism.. (I figured an all out fruit approach would be more than they could handle!).. To test if there'd be anyone interested, I wrote a short 200 word introduction to it for their quarterly newspaper due out in the next week or so.&lt;br/&gt;.&lt;br/&gt;I've also tentatively suggested I possibly organise getting started some community gardens, and get the local kids involved.. I think there's some kind of annual general meeting coming up, and the proposals will be put forward.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OK.. more updates another when..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hugs to all,&lt;br/&gt;Mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-2591382327720611683?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/2591382327720611683/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=2591382327720611683' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/2591382327720611683'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/2591382327720611683'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2008/09/brief-rundown-of-past-month-or-so.html' title='Brief rundown of the past month or so..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-4780071253091283292</id><published>2008-08-18T13:25:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2008-08-18T13:25:18.134+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Laptop problems..</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;Just a brief update as am in internet cafe..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our laptop has failed us again.. the shop says it could cost 3 to 400 dollars to fix!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;shoot.. I'm not sure if fixing it is the right thing to do.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;has anyone got an old spare laptop they don't use anymore?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;peace,&lt;br /&gt;mango.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/630524911061251819-4780071253091283292?l=fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/feeds/4780071253091283292/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=630524911061251819&amp;postID=4780071253091283292' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4780071253091283292'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/630524911061251819/posts/default/4780071253091283292'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://fruitarianjournal.blogspot.com/2008/08/laptop-problems.html' title='Laptop problems..'/><author><name>Fruitarian Mango</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiCGxEkH0DQ/R12nD-2YmiI/AAAAAAAAAAc/vGAucwMaaPY/S220/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-630524911061251819.post-8118550133848883475</id><published>2008-08-12T09:57:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2008-08-12T09:57:50.989+10:00</updated><title type='text'>vegetarforum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;I'm just recording this for prosperity.. This is a thread in Norwegian, where I attempted to debate fruitarianism..  Apparently, the thread on the original forum, is no longer accessible to read.. The links throughout the quote below, may or may not work.. I just copied the thread entirely, with it's HTML..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;table width='90%'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;link type='text/css' href='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default.css' rel='stylesheet'/&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt;&lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Appelsin'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Appelsin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c380/MentalTwin/Daisy-flower.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 114&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/25#25'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #25 - &lt;/b&gt;09.03.2007 , 02:47:04&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=25;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Grunnen til at folk velger å leve slik er visstnok fordi de ikke vil ta liv, ettersom de mener at alt er et liv. Dermed spiser de bare naturlig frafalt frukt, fordi da tar de ikke liv. Noe slik, det er vel vanskelig å forklare. Vil man vite mer, bør man søke det opp og lese det selv; for så å få et eget synspunkt. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Men jo, jeg forstår at dere ikke mener det som noe personangrep &lt;img border='0' title='Flirer' alt='Flirer' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/cheesy.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Grunnen til at jeg gjorde det var for å teste dette, jeg er veldig opptatt av mat og helse, og kunne gjerne blitt ernæringsfysiolog hadde det ikke vært for at det er vanskelig å "nå frem" med det som yrke. Jeg synes også det er en måte å bli bedre kjent med megselv på, det å teste ut nye ting, se mine egne grenser osv. Men det er jo mitt syn &lt;img border='0' title='Blunker' alt='Blunker' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/wink.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Uansett; Jeg fikk ikke den næringen jeg trenger ved å kun spise frukt, så nei, det er ikke å anbefales, fordi man kan ikke klare seg for lenge med det kostholdet. Bananer gav meg det jeg trengte for å ha energi hele dagen, men likevel; jeg kunne neppe klatret Mount Everest for å si det slik &lt;img border='0' title='Ler' alt='Ler' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/grin.gif'/&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Orgran&amp;lt;3 &lt;br /&gt;Gnocchi&amp;lt;3&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Appelsin'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Appelsin'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='26'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/26#26'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #26 - &lt;/b&gt;24.06.2007 , 08:19:58&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=26;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=26;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(26);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Jeg er fruktarianer.. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg begynte på frukt stien for 14 eller 15 år siden.. &lt;br /&gt; Helsen min er topp.. Jeg mangler ikke energi, blir aldri syk.. &lt;br /&gt; Appelsin, hvordan fungerer det for deg? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; mvh, &lt;br /&gt; Mango.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 24.06.2007 , 08:22:26 av Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='27'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Miriam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/bunny.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Jeg spiser ikke mine &lt;br /&gt;venner&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 191&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/27#27'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #27 - &lt;/b&gt;24.06.2007 , 17:24:24&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=27;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/15#26'&gt;Sitat fra Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/a&gt; , 24.06.2007 , 08:19:58:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Jeg er fruktarianer.. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg begynte på frukt stien for 14 eller 15 år siden.. &lt;br /&gt; Helsen min er topp.. Jeg mangler ikke energi, blir aldri syk.. &lt;br /&gt; Appelsin, hvordan fungerer det for deg? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; mvh, &lt;br /&gt; Mango. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Etter og ha lest her trodde jeg ikke man kunne leve som fruktarianer i mer enn 4-5 år. &lt;br /&gt; Men jeg har ett spørsmål, hvordan lar du tennene ha noe og arbeide med? spiser du ferdig produkter? eller lager du all mat fra bunnen av? &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Griser er smartere enn hunder, så det så&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='28'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/28#28'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #28 - &lt;/b&gt;24.06.2007 , 17:48:37&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=28;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=28;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(28);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Hei Miriam, &lt;br /&gt; hvorfor bare 4 eller 5 år? &lt;br /&gt; Jeg kjenner flere fruktarianer som har vært det mer enn 10 år.. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg trenger ikke å "lage" maten min.. Siden jeg koker ikke.. det gjelder bare å ta frukten og spise den.. selvfølgelig må den først kanskje skrelles eller skjæres.. &lt;br /&gt; ingenting er lettere.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; mvh, &lt;br /&gt; mango.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='29'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Turistattraksjon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/turistattraksjon/25-02-07_1435.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 212&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/29#29'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #29 - &lt;/b&gt;24.06.2007 , 22:13:06&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=29;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Wow! Om du virkelig er fruktarianer så er dette virkelig noe stort. Jeg vet om folk som hoster store vegetarianerforum og ALDRI har møtt på en fruktarianer (verken online eller irl). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hvor bor du? I Norge, eller et sted det er det er lettere tilgang til frukt? Har du testet deg for vitaminmangler? Syns du det er etisk "galt" å være vegetarianer/veganer? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Sorry for at jeg sikkert spør fantastisk dumt men akkurat nå er jeg very excitet, for å si det sånn.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 24.06.2007 , 22:18:44 av Turistattraksjon&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Alle gjør feil. Kunsten er å gjøre dem mens ingen ser på.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='window.open(&amp;apos;http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=setmsn;msnname=ZuperHanne&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;height=80,width=340,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no&amp;apos;); return false' style='cursor: pointer;' class='imgwindowbg'&gt;MSN&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='30'/&gt; &lt;b&gt;Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt; &lt;i&gt;Tidl. Medlem&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/30#30'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #30 - &lt;/b&gt;25.06.2007 , 01:38:55&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=30;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Jeg antar at en frukterianer også spiser frø og nøtter, og ofte også belgfrukter? &lt;br /&gt; (skjønt belgfrukter er uaktuelle for raw food'ere ettersom de må kokes, men det står jo ikke noe likhetstegn mellom raw foddist og fruitarian noen steder) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Korn er også frø, og selve planten er jo død når kornet høstes; derfor kan korn også regnes som "frukt"? ..ettersom en ikke direkte dreper planten for å få tak i maten. Korn blir kanskje en slags åtsel? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Uansett om en inkluderer belgfrukter og korn eller ikke, bør det for enkelte sarte sjeler som ikke tåler å høre den knasende lyden av en plantestengel som knekker, være mulig å leve sunt som raw food fruitarian på livsstid så lenge begrepet frukt innbefatter nøtter og frø, men at alle mennesker i verden ikke kan leve på en slik diett sier seg selv. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg var faktisk selv frukterianer i noen mnd, men gav opp da jeg innså at det knapt vokser noe som helst på disse breddegrader som en frukterianer kan spise (unntatt korn og solsikkekjerner) Jeg lærte meg derfor av helse- og miljøhensyn å gi faen i at brennesla kanskje får vondt når jeg tar toppskuddene dens &lt;img border='0' title='Tunge' alt='Tunge' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/tongue.gif'/&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 25.06.2007 , 01:42:33 av Line&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='31'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Miriam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/bunny.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Jeg spiser ikke mine &lt;br /&gt;venner&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 191&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/31#31'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #31 - &lt;/b&gt;25.06.2007 , 01:39:33&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=31;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/15#29'&gt;Sitat fra Turistattraksjon&lt;/a&gt; , 24.06.2007 , 22:13:06:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Wow! Om du virkelig er fruktarianer så er dette virkelig noe stort. Jeg vet om folk som hoster store vegetarianerforum og ALDRI har møtt på en fruktarianer (verken online eller irl). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hvor bor du? I Norge, eller et sted det er det er lettere tilgang til frukt? Har du testet deg for vitaminmangler? Syns du det er etisk "galt" å være vegetarianer/veganer? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Sorry for at jeg sikkert spør fantastisk dumt men akkurat nå er jeg very excitet, for å si det sånn. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; På brukeren hans sto det at han bor i Australia, i sydney &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Griser er smartere enn hunder, så det så&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='32'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/32#32'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #32 - &lt;/b&gt;25.06.2007 , 08:29:58&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=32;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=32;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(32);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/15#29'&gt;Sitat fra Turistattraksjon&lt;/a&gt; , 24.06.2007 , 22:13:06:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Wow! Om du virkelig er fruktarianer så er dette virkelig noe stort. Jeg vet om folk som hoster store vegetarianerforum og ALDRI har møtt på en fruktarianer (verken online eller irl). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hvor bor du? I Norge, eller et sted det er det er lettere tilgang til frukt? Har du testet deg for vitaminmangler? Syns du det er etisk "galt" å være vegetarianer/veganer? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Sorry for at jeg sikkert spør fantastisk dumt men akkurat nå er jeg very excitet, for å si det sånn. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Ja, dette er ingen vits.. Jeg spiser ingenting annet enn frukt.. Ikke frø og nøtter, og heller ikke belgfrukter.. dvs, å spise frø er av og til ikke til å unngå.. f.eks. når mann spiser tomat,eller kiwifrukt osv.. Og det er sant at mange fruktarianere spiser også frø og nøtter, og kanskje også belgfrukter i tillegg.. Personligt spiser jeg bare frukt.. Rå frisk modne frukt.. som betyr også slangeagurk, tomat osv.. Jeg først ble vegetarianer for litt over 20 år siden, og ett år senere, gikk jeg over til veganisme.. På den tiden, følte jeg meg som den eneste veganer i Norge.. (Jeg kjente (til) ingen andre..) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 4 eller 5 år derettter, begynnte jeg å spise bare rå vegankost.. Men hadde alltid lyst til å forenklere det enda mer.. Snart sjønnte jeg at frukten var alt som trengtes ..  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Ja jeg synes det er etisk galt å være vegetarianer.. Men likevel etisk bedre enn å være kjøttspiser.. Veganere forstår det enda bedre, men de tar likevel ikke hensyn til deres egne helse.. det å spise kokt er meget usundt.. enten det er kanin eller gresskaren.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Miriam har rett, jeg bor ikke lenger i Norge.. For tiden er jeg i Australia.. men jeg har bodd på mange sted.. jeg liker å være der hvor frukten befinner seg &lt;img border='0' title='Blunker' alt='Blunker' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/wink.gif'/&gt; ! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem til alle, &lt;br /&gt; mango.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. 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Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='33'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/33#33'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #33 - &lt;/b&gt;28.06.2007 , 12:58:08&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=33;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=33;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(33);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Dersom noen er interessert, ble jeg nylig intervjuet av "Dagens Næringsliv".. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Intervjuet blir trykket i lørdags avisen.. (altså om 2 dager, tror jeg).. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Intervjuet er om fruktarianisme.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem, &lt;br /&gt; mango.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='34'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Turistattraksjon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/turistattraksjon/25-02-07_1435.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 212&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/34#34'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #34 - &lt;/b&gt;28.06.2007 , 21:43:39&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=34;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Det skal jeg lese&lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Reiser ikke til Norge før på søndag, men jeg har konto på dagens næringsliv sin nettavis, så jeg regner med at jeg har tilgang til intervjuet...  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Alle gjør feil. Kunsten er å gjøre dem mens ingen ser på.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='window.open(&amp;apos;http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=setmsn;msnname=ZuperHanne&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;height=80,width=340,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no&amp;apos;); return false' style='cursor: pointer;' class='imgwindowbg'&gt;MSN&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='35'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/35#35'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #35 - &lt;/b&gt;01.07.2007 , 08:16:05&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=35;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=35;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(35);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/30#34'&gt;Sitat fra Turistattraksjon&lt;/a&gt; , 28.06.2007 , 21:43:39:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Det skal jeg lese&lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Reiser ikke til Norge før på søndag, men jeg har konto på dagens næringsliv sin nettavis, så jeg regner med at jeg har tilgang til intervjuet... &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hola Turistattraksjon! &lt;br /&gt; jeg er nysjerrig, ble intervjuet trykket på nettavisa deres? Jeg er i australia, og har ikke hatt anledningen til å kjøpe avisa, så vet ikke engang om intervjuet ble inkludert.. ?? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem, &lt;br /&gt; mango  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='36'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Turistattraksjon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/turistattraksjon/25-02-07_1435.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 212&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/36#36'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #36 - &lt;/b&gt;03.07.2007 , 03:24:28&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=36;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Jeg var innom avisa på Lørdag og søkte flere ganger, og gikk gjennom hele papiravisa på internett flere ganger uten å finne noe. (Kontoen gir tilgang til papirversonen av avisa i pdf) ... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det var litt trist&lt;img border='0' title='Trist' alt='Trist' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/sad.gif'/&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Alle gjør feil. Kunsten er å gjøre dem mens ingen ser på.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='window.open(&amp;apos;http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=setmsn;msnname=ZuperHanne&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;height=80,width=340,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no&amp;apos;); return false' style='cursor: pointer;' class='imgwindowbg'&gt;MSN&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='37'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/37#37'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #37 - &lt;/b&gt;03.07.2007 , 06:08:50&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=37;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Men du spiser kokosnøtter og frø eller?  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='38'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/38#38'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #38 - &lt;/b&gt;03.07.2007 , 10:54:09&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=38;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=38;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(38);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/30#36'&gt;Sitat fra Turistattraksjon&lt;/a&gt; , 03.07.2007 , 03:24:28:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Jeg var innom avisa på Lørdag og søkte flere ganger, og gikk gjennom hele papiravisa på internett flere ganger uten å finne noe. (Kontoen gir tilgang til papirversonen av avisa i pdf) ... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det var litt trist&lt;img border='0' title='Trist' alt='Trist' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/sad.gif'/&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg har sendt en epost til bladet for å finne ut hva som er blitt av intervjuet.. &lt;br /&gt; Kan hende det blir ikke trykket før lørdagen som kommer.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Foreløpig, har jeg laget en side med intervjuet i sin helhet.. her: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.Fruitnut.net/HTML/201_Article_MeInterview_NO.htm'&gt;Intervjuet med Dagens Næringsliv&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Men, intervjuet i avisa skal være trykket sammen med meningene av såkalte ernæringseksperter.. (som jeg gleder meg til å lese!! &lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; ) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/30#37'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 03.07.2007 , 06:08:50:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Men du spiser kokosnøtter og frø eller? &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg kan ikke nekte.. Jeg har spist kokosnøtter flere ganger.. siste gang for litt over ett år siden.. Men ellers spiser jeg ingen andre nøtter og ikke frø heler..Og kokosnøtter spiser jeg bare når de er ynge og freske.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem, &lt;br /&gt; mango  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='39'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/39#39'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #39 - &lt;/b&gt;05.07.2007 , 10:11:29&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=39;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Sorry at jeg sier det, men du er litt weird da. Dietten din kan umulig dekke alle kroppens behov, eller?  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt;&lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/40#40'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #40 - &lt;/b&gt;05.07.2007 , 12:22:16&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=40;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=40;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(40);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/30#39'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 05.07.2007 , 10:11:29:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Sorry at jeg sier det, men du er litt weird da. Dietten din kan umulig dekke alle kroppens behov, eller? &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg forstår godt at du syns jeg virker litt wierd.. Og at du i tillegg tenker at fruktdietten kan umulig dekke alle kroppens behov..  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; For 20 år siden ble jeg fortalt mange ganger at jeg drev med en galskap da jeg slo over til veganisme.. Folk pleide å fortelle meg hvor umulig det var at veganisme kunne dekke alle kroppens behov.. Jeg visste at de tok feil.. Jeg ble aldri redd for å ikke for i meg nok b12 eller lignende.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg tok mine beslutninger hovedsakelig av etiske grunder.. Men visste i tillegg at det var en del av sunn fornuft med det jeg holdt på med.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Kan hende at jeg virker litt rart.. Men hele resten av verden virker rart for meg.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det jeg mener mann burde forøke å forstå, er hvor unnaturlig, og "wierd" det er, at mann koker sin mat.. Gitt at de alle fleste gjør det, og at mennesket forsatt klare å overleve fram til 50, 60, 70, 80 årene.. er ren bevis på at vi kan klare oss i mange år på maten som er unaturlig for oss.. Dersom jeg ikke visste bedre, ville jeg ha sagt at, stort sett, et slikt vanligt kosthold kunne &lt;i&gt;umulig dekke alle kroppens behov&lt;/i&gt;.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det jeg har gjort, er tatt et trinn tilbake, og sett på samfunnet.. Og sett hvor syk det er blitt.. Og itillegg har jeg forstått at dietten fra "the garden of eden", er ikke noe fantasi.. Det er dietten som har mer ren sunn fornuft enn alle andre.. Det er en diett som helbreder, isteden for å gjøre en syk.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Ernæringsvitenskap vet svært lite om hva det er egentlig at kroppen behøver. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg kan snakke fra min egen erfaring, at siden jeg har vært fruktarianer, er jeg friskere enn noensinne.. Aldri følt meg bedre.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hva er det, tror du, at kroppen min mangler? og hvorfor tror du det er at jeg legger ikke merke til mangelen?? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Problemet med menneskets helse er ikke pga mangel.. men det er pga forgiftning.. forgiftningen er årsaken til de alle fleste sykdommer.. jeg snakker om forgiftningen som kommer fra å ernære seg på en gal måte.. All kokt mat forgifter, og derfor blir vi syke.. og svært sjelden pga at vi mangler noe.. (se bare på naturen, og dens behov(!?) på kokt mat!) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem til alle, &lt;br /&gt; mango. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; ps det var litt misforståelse med redaksjonen av dagens næringsliv, jeg tror artikkelen/intervjuet kommer på til førstkommende lørdag  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 05.07.2007 , 12:55:23 av Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. 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Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='41'/&gt; &lt;b&gt;Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt; &lt;i&gt;Tidl. Medlem&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/41#41'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #41 - &lt;/b&gt;05.07.2007 , 12:40:22&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=41;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Sitat:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Men, intervjuet i avisa skal være trykket sammen med meningene av såkalte ernæringseksperter.. (som jeg gleder meg til å lese!! Smilefjes ) &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; la oss håpe du ikke gleder deg forgjeves. De fornekter David Copperfield også. ..men en vet aldri. det kan jo hende noen begynner å fundere litt på det. Flott intervjuu ansett!  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='42'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/42#42'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #42 - &lt;/b&gt;05.07.2007 , 19:40:54&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=42;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=42;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(42);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/30#41'&gt;Sitat fra Line&lt;/a&gt; , 05.07.2007 , 12:40:22:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;la oss håpe du ikke gleder deg forgjeves. De fornekter David Copperfield også. ..men en vet aldri. det kan jo hende noen begynner å fundere litt på det. Flott intervjuu ansett! &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hei Line, &lt;br /&gt; Det er klart at folk flest som kommer til å lese artikkelen og intervjuet skal allerede har en forutbestemt mening om at det å kun spise frukt er umulig og gal... men dette gir jeg stort sett blaffen i og venter egentlig ingenting annet... Om bare det finnes ett enkelt menneske som er i stand til å forstå hva jeg sier, skal jeg være fornøyd!.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Frukt er svaret! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem til alle, &lt;br /&gt; mango  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. 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Bortifra smaken, da. 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Slik som nøtter, frø, bønner, belgfrukter og sopp. Du spiser vel grønnsaker og røtter vel?  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='46'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/46#46'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #46 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 08:07:21&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=46;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=46;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(46);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/30#44'&gt;Sitat fra Helene&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 00:02:41:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Det jeg, og de fleste andre sikkert, lurer på er hvordan du mener å få i deg protein? musklene i kroppen trenger protein for å holde seg vedlike og ikke bli ødelagt av fysisk krevende arbeid/aktivitet. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg ser at du kan få i deg store mengder karbohydrat og mye bra fett, men protein ser jeg ikke hvor du skal få fra? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; B12-lagrene i kroppen tømmes ikke før det er godt flere år, så om du tok prøver av B12 noen år etter du ble veganer er det naturlig at du hadde et høyt nok nivå da. Det sies imidlertid at lagrene tømmes og at man etterhvert da vil få skader pga. mangelen. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg lurer på hvordan testene hadde sett ut idag, det hadde faktisk vært veldig interessant å vite! &lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Helene, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Fakta: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 1. All frukt inneholder protein.. Det finnes ikke én som ikke gjør det.. Proteininnehold i frukt pleier å være mellom 1,6 og 2,2%.. kommer an på hva slags frukt.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 2. Tiden i menneskets liv da mann har mest behov på protein er etter at en blir født, og drikker morsmelk.. Morsmelk inneholder 1,8% protein.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 3. Det er nesten umulig å ikke få i seg nok protein.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 4. Folk flest blir syke av å overdrive protein - et vanlig kosthold inneholder langt for mye! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 5. De alle fleste sykdommer er ikke pga mangel, men pga forgiftning.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Når det gjelder B12, i følger vitenskapsmenn, skal lagrene i kroppen tømmes ikke før det er gått flere år.. de mest konservative mener lagrene tømmes i løpet av ikke mer enn 4 år.. Andre sier at kroppen kan klare seg med lagrene i 8 til 10 år, men ikke mer.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Dersom min B12 var allerede lav for 15 år siden, burde jeg kanskje allerede blitt død.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Men sannheten er at jeg kjenner meg bedre enn aldri.. Og har overhode ingen mangelsymptomer.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I Norge kjente jeg 2 personer som manglet B12.. den ene var kjøtteter den andre vegetarianer.. B12 skal være både oppe i kjøtt og meieriprodukter.. (??) Legene tror de vet alt, men vet i grunnen svært lite.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#45'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 01:28:18:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Joda, men du skjønner da vel at selv de hardest veganske primatene spiser annet enn frukt og bær? Slik som nøtter, frø, bønner, belgfrukter og sopp. Du spiser vel grønnsaker og røtter vel? &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Nikolai, &lt;br /&gt; Jeg ser at du har det vanskelig å fatte.. Nei, jeg spiser ikke grønnsaker og røtter.. &lt;br /&gt; kun frukt og bær.. &lt;br /&gt; Så vidt jeg vet, finnes det ingen andre veganske primater.. Kan hender jeg tar feil, men jeg tror iallfall ikke det.. &lt;br /&gt; Sikkert er det at ingen andre primater er vegetarianere.. ("veg-eatdairy-ans") dvs at de spiser ingen andre dyr eller insekter, men stjeler melken og eggene deres.. Og veganske primater? såvidt jeg vet spiser de alle insekter hvis ikke andre små dyr de av og til få tak i.. &lt;br /&gt; Og ingen andre dyr koker maten sin.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det jeg forsøker å si, er at mennesket er annerledes.. Bare fordi ingen andre primater er veganere, betyr ikke at vi er nød til å spise maur og slik.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; faktisk, er alle dyreart forskjellige.. Forsøk å overbevise koalabjørnen at den umulig kan leve av å spise bare Eucalyptus blader!! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I believe in the garden of Eden.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem til alle, &lt;br /&gt; Mango.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 06.07.2007 , 11:32:00 av Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. 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Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='47'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/47#47'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #47 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 11:49:14&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=47;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Selv om dette går tilsynelatende okay en stund, så vil kroppen din slite mye snarlig. Uten fettsyrer, essensielle proteiner, mineraler og f.eks. B12 vitamin dannes ikke skikkelige celler. Skadene på kroppen din vil bli ganske alvorlige og mulig irreversible. Selv om det kan ta månedsvis å oppdage. Celler er svært kompliserte. Religionen din er i ferd med å ta livet av deg. Sorry ass, men dette er sinnsjukdom.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 06.07.2007 , 11:51:29 av Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='48'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=E.'&gt;&lt;b&gt;E.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3042/ainsleykp3.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 80&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/48#48'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #48 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 15:54:27&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=48;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#46'&gt;Sitat fra Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 08:07:21:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Forsøk å overbevise koalabjørnen at den umulig kan leve av å spise bare Eucalyptus blader!! &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; EHHH &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Nå er ikke jeg noen biolog, men dette virket som en noe søkt sammenlikning. I tillegg til at mennesker ikke er bygd på samme måte som små, søte bjørner, gjør vel ikke koalaer stort annet enn å ete og sove og stirre ut i lufta. Skulle jeg levd på epler og bananer hadde nok dagen min sett omtrent sånn ut også om jeg ikke skulle svimt av. Men hei, whatever works for you, du har tydeligvis funnet en livsstil som passer overens med ditt verdisyn og det er ikke alle som kan si det.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=E%2E'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=E%2E'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://kaninmat.blogspot.com'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='49'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/49#49'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #49 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 16:41:35&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=49;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=49;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(49);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#47'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 11:49:14:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Selv om dette går tilsynelatende okay en stund, så vil kroppen din slite mye snarlig. Uten fettsyrer, essensielle proteiner, mineraler og f.eks. B12 vitamin dannes ikke skikkelige celler. Skadene på kroppen din vil bli ganske alvorlige og mulig irreversible. Selv om det kan ta månedsvis å oppdage. Celler er svært kompliserte. Religionen din er i ferd med å ta livet av deg. Sorry ass, men dette er sinnsjukdom. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Nikolai, &lt;br /&gt; hele verden (nesten) er sinnssyk.. &lt;br /&gt; Men jeg tror ikke du leser hva jeg skriver.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;i&gt;.. selv om det kan ta månedsvis å oppdage..&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt; dette har jeg drevet med årevis.. B12'en eller mangelen av, skulle allerede ha drept meg for mange år siden, (Ifølge tradisjonelle vitenskapstanker).. Iallfall skulle jeg ha lagt merke til at noe rart skjer med kroppen.. Men istedet, føler jeg meg både yngre og i bedre helse.. Klart kan du dømme meg som sinnssyk.. Men jeg snakker fra erfaring.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg kjenner andre fruktarainere som har holdt på med det lengre enn jeg.. Kjæresten min har vært fruktarianer i allerede 20 år.. Jeg har også en god venninne som har 2 barn, det ene allerede 16 år, og han spiste ingenting annet en frukt fram til ifjor når han ble innflyttet av andre tenåringer å begynne å spise andre "vanlige" mat.. Han var alltid i god helse men siden han begynte å spise "normalt" har han også begynte å bli forkjølet en eller 2 ganger i året som folk flest.. Han ser mye verre ut idag.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Men selvklart forstår jeg at du kommer sannsynligvis ikke til å tolke det på samme måten som jeg gjør.. Ditt valg. Mitt valg. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#48'&gt;Sitat fra E.&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 15:54:27:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#46'&gt;Sitat fra Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 08:07:21:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Forsøk å overbevise koalabjørnen at den umulig kan leve av å spise bare Eucalyptus blader!! &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; EHHH &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Nå er ikke jeg noen biolog, men dette virket som en noe søkt sammenlikning. I tillegg til at mennesker ikke er bygd på samme måte som små, søte bjørner, gjør vel ikke koalaer stort annet enn å ete og sove og stirre ut i lufta. Skulle jeg levd på epler og bananer hadde nok dagen min sett omtrent sånn ut også om jeg ikke skulle svimt av. Men hei, whatever works for you, du har tydeligvis funnet en livsstil som passer overens med ditt verdisyn og det er ikke alle som kan si det. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Sammenligningen var akkurat for å bevise at alle dyreart er ulike.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem til alle, &lt;br /&gt; Mango.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. Love&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=durian'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.fruitnut.net'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='50'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Helene'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Helene&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/lovebird.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 522&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/50#50'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #50 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 17:15:54&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=50;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Mango: frukt inneholder ikke alle de aminosyrene kroppen trenger. Dessverre, men det er fakta at de ikke gjør og du kan umulig få i deg alt sammen. Men likevel kan den godt hende at kroppen din har vent seg til et minimalt proteininntak og utnytter det lille den får. Problemet for deg blir om du en gang kommer i en situasjon eller noe som krever endel fysisk aktivitet. Da vil det bli trøbbel innvendig. Kroppen trenger 0,5gram protein per kg kroppsvekt om dagen, FULLVERDIG protein. Dette finnes ikke i noen frukt. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg har hatt mennesker i livet mitt som har fått harde innvendige sykdommer, men som har følt seg bedre enn noensinne før de tok tester som det kom frem noe helt annet. &lt;br /&gt; Det er godt du føler deg frisk, men å anbefale dette til alle er ikke lurt. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Helene'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Helene'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='51'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=E.'&gt;&lt;b&gt;E.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3042/ainsleykp3.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 80&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/51#51'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #51 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 17:42:07&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=51;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#49'&gt;Sitat fra Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 16:41:35:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Sammenligningen var akkurat for å bevise at alle dyreart er ulike.. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Duh. Poenget mitt var at koalaer ikke trenger noe mer variert kosthold fordi de er naturens internettnerder og bare sitter på ræva med mat i den ene hånda hele dagen. De fleste mennesker har tross alt forholdsvis aktive liv og jeg tror de trenger mer enn frukt for å oppretteholde dette. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Eller tar jeg feil? Driver du med sport eller noe sånt?  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=E%2E'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=E%2E'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://kaninmat.blogspot.com'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='52'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=s.n'&gt;&lt;b&gt;s.n&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/blank.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 10&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/52#52'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #52 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 17:59:46&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=52;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Jeg synes debatten begynner å bli ufin. Veganere og vegetarianere klager seg sårt i andre debatter her på forumet, og syter over hvor mange de må rettferdiggjøre sine valg overfor... Dere har gjort deres valg, fruktarianeren har gjort sitt valg, det er det bare å respektere! Å stille spørsmål og være interessert synes jeg er fint, men kritikk og kommentarer som vitner mer om at veganere/vegetarianere er bedrevitende synes jeg er lavmål... Enhver bestemmer hva som er livskvalitet for en selv, og vår venn fruktarianeren sier selv at han har det bra! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Selv vil jeg heller dø som lykkelig vegetarianer enn som miserabel kjøttspiser... Del handler om valg og livskvalitet!  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 06.07.2007 , 18:02:16 av s.n&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=s%2En'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=s%2En'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='53'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=durian'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.fruitnut.net/Images/Avatar_Revolution.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; fruitnut.net&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 18&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/53#53'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #53 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 18:19:07&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=53;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?board=div;action=modify;message=53;thread=1159292579'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Rediger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='uncheckAllBut(53);' style='cursor: pointer;'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Fjern&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Problemet med befolkningen/sammfunnet er at det/vi er alle blitt hjernevasket.. vi siterer ting som vi har hørt, som vi tror er sannheten.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; få lærer å tenke for seg sjølv.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Helene, lurt eller ei, jeg anbefaler frukt til alle.. ja.. og desverre , er det du tenker fakta bare rykter.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Og E, ja.. siden du spør.. Ja, du tar feil, ja.. jeg har syklet gjennom hele europa på frukt, og alldri manglet energi.. (jeg var mer enn ett år underveis).. Jeg syklet også hele øst kysten av australia.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Men jeg har sagt det jeg ville si, så skal takke alle for å ha hørt på , og si adios! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Dersom noen engang vil tenker litt mer på fruktarianisme, og er beredt på å tenke litt for seg sjølv, alle er velkommen til å besøke fruitrevolution forumet.. (gjennom websiden min).. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; klem og god helse til alle sammen, &lt;br /&gt; Mango &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; ps.. S.N.. har nettopp lest det du skrev.. takk for det!  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 06.07.2007 , 18:22:19 av Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Truth.. Simplicity.. 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Ja, du tar feil, ja.. jeg har syklet gjennom hele europa på frukt, og alldri manglet energi.. (jeg var mer enn ett år underveis).. Jeg syklet også hele øst kysten av australia.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Vel, det er imponerende og opplysende. Takk for svar. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;EDIT:&lt;/b&gt; En ting til. Er litt enig og litt uenig i s.n. sin kommentar - kritiske kommentarer synes jeg bør være lov når vi står ovenfor noe som går på tvers av våre egne vaner, men vi (inkludert meg, haha) skal nok være forsiktige med å være så sikre på at fyren ikke får i seg nok næringsstoffer . Folk som i stor grad baserer sitt kosthold på dyreprodukter mener nøyaktig det samme om oss, men vi vet jo godt at det ikke er sant.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 06.07.2007 , 19:13:56 av E.&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=E%2E'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=E%2E'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://kaninmat.blogspot.com'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='55'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=ZuperHanne'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Turistattraksjon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/turistattraksjon/25-02-07_1435.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 212&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/55#55'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #55 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 18:48:17&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=55;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Intervjuet var utrolig bra! &lt;br /&gt; Det var utrolig moro å lese på internettsiden din om da du ble kjent med Bozo&lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Alle gjør feil. 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Medlem&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/56#56'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #56 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 20:33:07&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=56;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Problemet for oss her oppe på berget er vel at vi ikke egentlig kan leve som frukterianere om vi skal gå tilbake inn i "hagen". &lt;br /&gt; Det vokser ikke nok frukt her, for å si det sånn. Hva vi skal spise her må vi dyrke eller transportere hit, og på de stedene i verden hvor det vokser nok frukt er det allerede ganske overbefolket. ..så det er nok derfor Nikolai hevder at "ren" fruktarianisme" er en sinnsykdom. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; ..forøvrig er min personlige erfaring at undre kan skje, men at vitenskapen ikke er helt på jordet den heller, så om man etter 3 år med bare frukt ikke har lært seg å fly og ikke kan gå på vannet.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Selv trenger jeg &lt;i&gt;minst&lt;/i&gt; 1 g vegetabilsk protein pr kilo pr døgn for å være restituert i løpet av 24 timer så lenge jeg trener "normalt", og &lt;i&gt;minst&lt;/i&gt; 1,5g/kg eller mer dersom jeg ønsker å være sånn noenlunde restituert i løpet av 3 døgn etter at "Støttegruppen for Treningsnarkomane" har arrangert aerobicmaratons. Restitusjonsprossessen krever nemlig proteiner og en føler seg ikke helt fresh igjen før kroppen har fått sitt, om det tar 24 timer, 3 eller 5 døgn. Jo hardere en har trent, jo mer proteiner krever kroppen for å bygge seg opp igjen. I konkurransesport (eller når man trener organisert danceaerobic med bra koreografi til tøff musikk) skal det godt gjøres å holde seg innenfor aerobe rammer, og når en går over den anaerobe terskelen tar kroppen til med å direkte forbrenne eget muskelvev, og det er dette som krever så mye proteiner for å bygge opp igjen til ny aktivitet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det er tydeligvis ikke noe problem å klare seg med svært lite protein om en holder et lavt aktivitetsnivå (med lavt aktivitetsnivå mener jeg aktiviteter en ikke blir veldig andpusten av i mer enn tre minutter i slengen. Det er nemlig fullt mulig å sykle Europa og Asia rundt uten å bli særlig andpusten, men da tar det gjerne litt tid også) Jeg tror ikke en mangeårig frukterianer vil klare mer enn oppvarmingsdelen foran en vanlig aerobictime før kroppen protesterer så mye at en bare må gi seg. ..med mindre en har lært å gå gjennom vegger da.. &lt;img border='0' title='Blunker' alt='Blunker' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/wink.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 06.07.2007 , 20:37:20 av Line&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='57'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/57#57'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #57 - &lt;/b&gt;06.07.2007 , 22:30:04&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=57;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Jada, enkelte jøder overlevde 5 år i Aushwitz og asketer har levd på slik og ingenting. Fruktarianisme er religion og på ingen måte helsebrinngende, tvert imot er det ingen motsetning mellom at det har gått månedsvis og år. Det er ikke slik at kroppen er "ny" hver dag, dette er en gradvis prosess. Helsefeilene merkes over lang tid når organer, hjerne, nerver, skjelett etc. begynner å svikte for alvor. 20 år som fruktarianer = løgn. Noen som har sett filmen om "breathtarians" ? En Dame som i Australia som hevdet hun levde på bare luft, og ikke drakk vann en gang. Hun fikk faktisk tilhengere hun og. En spiseforstyrrelse med religiøs sinnsjukdom dette, som han kan få lov til selv, men jeg reagerer når han preker.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 06.07.2007 , 23:14:24 av Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 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 &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #58 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 00:42:10&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=58;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Du preker ditt syn like mye...  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; 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&lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #59 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 00:51:19&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=59;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Enig med s.n. Det er ufint Nikolai å avfeie andres vegetariske kosthold som sinnsykdom. Din toleranseevne er på nivå med hardbarka kjøttspisere. Det er akkurat det vegetarianere hele tiden får høre; mange av kjøttspiserne tror ikke det er mulig å leve på vegetarmat og holde seg frisk, og vi vet jo at de tar feil. Så kanskje du også i din skråsikkerhet tar feil?  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 07.07.2007 , 00:51:59 av Knut&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 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&lt;div class='small'&gt; &lt;b&gt;Forum-administrator&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/starmod.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/p3.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; en måned som &lt;br /&gt;vegetarianer = ett &lt;br /&gt;slaktedyr mindre&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 598&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#60'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #60 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 00:59:36&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=60;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#58'&gt;Sitat fra s.n&lt;/a&gt; , 07.07.2007 , 00:42:10:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Du preker ditt syn like mye... &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Tipper det er det forrige innlegget du kommenterer, s.n., og her er du inne på noe. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I forum-reglene (&lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=register'&gt;http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=register&lt;/a&gt;) står det utvetydig: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;Sitat:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Følgelig er det forbudt å kritisere forum-brukere på grunn av deres eget vegetariske kosthold eller rakke ned på en spesiell type vegetarisme. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Dette inkluderer også de som måtte velge å bare spise frukt. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg reagerer litt på disse to postene fra Nikolai: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;Sitat:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Selv om dette går tilsynelatende okay en stund, så vil kroppen din slite mye snarlig. Uten fettsyrer, essensielle proteiner, mineraler og f.eks. B12 vitamin dannes ikke skikkelige celler. Skadene på kroppen din vil bli ganske alvorlige og mulig irreversible. Selv om det kan ta månedsvis å oppdage. Celler er svært kompliserte. Religionen din er i ferd med å ta livet av deg. Sorry ass, men dette er sinnsjukdom. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; og &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;Sitat:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Jada, enkelte jøder overlevde 5 år i Aushwitz og asketer har levd på slik og ingenting. Fruktarianisme er religion og på ingen måte helsebrinngende, tvert imot er det ingen motsetning mellom at det har gått månedsvis og år. Det er ikke slik at kroppen er "ny" hver dag, dette er en gradvis prosess. Helsefeilene merkes over lang tid når organer, hjerne, nerver, skjelett etc. begynner å svikte for alvor. 20 år som fruktarianer = løgn. Noen som har sett filmen om "breathtarians" ? En Dame som i Australia som hevdet hun levde på bare luft, og ikke drakk vann en gang. Hun fikk faktisk tilhengere hun og. En spiseforstyrrelse med religiøs sinnsjukdom dette, som han kan få lov til selv, men jeg reagerer når han preker. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det er nemlig både forbud mot å kritisere brukeres kosthold, og å leke lege / komme med universelle påstander om andres kosthold. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det samme ville vært tilfelle dersom en fruktarianer ville kommet med bastante påstander om andre. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Når det er sagt, så har Nikolai helt rett i mye av det han skriver om B12-problematikken. Noen i Bergensgruppen til NV jobber med en forum-regel som vil gjøre det forbudt å komme med påstander som motstrider vitenskapelige fakta (som vegetar-miljøet også støtter), f.eks. i spørsmålet om B12. At enkelte velger å tilsidese solid dokumentasjon rundt f.eks. B12 er selvsagt deres valg, men dette er altså noe grupper som Norsk Vegetarforening, danske Vegana, Veganföreningen, the Vegan Society og the International Vegetarian Union er enige om. Dette vil derfor inkorporeres i forum-reglene ganske snart, og i så henseende er Nikolai forut for sin tid som forum-bruker &lt;img border='0' title='Blunker' alt='Blunker' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/wink.gif'/&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Pål W. Thorbjørnsen&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Informasjonssekretær i Norsk Vegetarforening&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=paal'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=paal'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='61'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Miriam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/bunny.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Jeg spiser ikke mine &lt;br /&gt;venner&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 191&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/61#61'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/lamp.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #61 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 03:18:55&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=61;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Slutt og kritiser han da. Kan være sant at han har vært frukterianer lenge, kroppen hans har skikkert vent seg til dette kostholdet. Var på leir for en liten stund siden, der var jeg i aktivitet hele tiden og selv om jeg ikke fikk noe spessiellt med mat så over levde jeg på loff, poteter og litt godteri. Jeg er ikke enig i alt som står i dette forumet (er heller ikke enig med mango heile tiden), men jeg går ikke og kritiserer dem. Jeg spør kanskje, men kritiserer ikke  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Griser er smartere enn hunder, så det så&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='62'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Knut&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://homefree.freewave.no/%7Es1331172/manic/bilder/hatha.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 158&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/62#62'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #62 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 03:59:57&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=62;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#60'&gt;Sitat fra paal&lt;/a&gt; , 07.07.2007 , 00:59:36:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Noen i Bergensgruppen til NV jobber med en forum-regel som vil gjøre det forbudt å komme med påstander som motstrider vitenskapelige fakta (som vegetar-miljøet også støtter), f.eks. i spørsmålet om B12. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Å forby noen å motstride vitenskapelige fakta; eller heller "fakta", synes jeg smaker av meningstotalitarisme. Som du nok også vet Pål, så er vitenskapelige sannheter hele tiden i utvikling, og tidvis viser det seg at vitenskapen tar ganske så feil. Skal det da være forbudt å hevde at man er uenig i vitenskapens slutninger så er det svært trist for alle de som forfekter sannheter (ofte her også "sannheter") som vitenskapen foreløpig bare avfeier som vås. Og vitenskapelige "fakta" har vi jo sett konsekvensen av for eksempel i forbindelse med thalodomid-skandalen for noen år tilbake; og også i mange andre tilfeller. Om noen hevder at B12 ikke er nødvendig i en diskusjon, så får du heller dynge på med argumentasjon som viser at personen tar feil.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://homefree.freewave.no/%7Es1331172/manic/organic.html'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='63'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/63#63'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #63 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 06:45:55&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=63;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Jeg synes posten til Miriam dessverre illustrerer at jeg ikke var krass nok. Jeg vil ikke definiere fruktarianisme som en vegetarretning. Det går derimot inn under spiseforstyrrelser. Dessverre kan mennesker sulte seg ihjel og leve svært skadelig for seg selv og likevel hardnakket med smil påstå at dette er riktig. Det er ikke noe nytt, og jeg blir egentlig litt sinna når de hevder at det finnes dekning for at det ikke er noe problem. For meg er det overhode ingen tvil om at dette skyldes religion, og jeg reagerte derfor på forsøkene på å forsvare basisen rasjonelt. Mannen blir ikke gammel dessverre og mangelsykdommene har han nok alt kjent og kommer nok til å kjenne mer av i framtiden.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='64'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Hawk'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hawk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/blank.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 147&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/64#64'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #64 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 08:21:42&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=64;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#62'&gt;Sitat fra Knut&lt;/a&gt; , 07.07.2007 , 03:59:57:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Å forby noen å motstride vitenskapelige fakta; eller heller "fakta", synes jeg smaker av meningstotalitarisme. Som du nok også vet Pål, så er vitenskapelige sannheter hele tiden i utvikling, og tidvis viser det seg at vitenskapen tar ganske så feil. Skal det da være forbudt å hevde at man er uenig i vitenskapens slutninger så er det svært trist for alle de som forfekter sannheter (ofte her også "sannheter") som vitenskapen foreløpig bare avfeier som vås. Og vitenskapelige "fakta" har vi jo sett konsekvensen av for eksempel i forbindelse med thalodomid-skandalen for noen år tilbake; og også i mange andre tilfeller. Om noen hevder at B12 ikke er nødvendig i en diskusjon, så får du heller dynge på med argumentasjon som viser at personen tar feil. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Som en av dem som jobber med forslag til ny regel svarer jeg gjerne på dette. &lt;br /&gt; Hensikten er ikke å kneble debatter eller synspunkter vi er uenige i. Og ja vi er klar over at forholdet mellom vitenskap og kvasivitenskap er uklart. Det er også slik at det vi forholder oss til som sannheter i dag kan motbevises av ny kunnskap i morgen. Hensikten er å kunne fjerne/ stoppe innlegg med innhold som klart går mot hva som er etablerte sannheter og som hvis satt ut i praksis kan føre til helseskade på de som følger dette. Eksempelvis vil innlegg som hevder at man kan leve et flott liv kun på rosiner ville kunne bli fjernet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Bakgrunnen til dette er en erkjennelse av at mange som leser forumet bruker dette som oppslagsverk og inspirator for eget kosthold. Det ville således være trist om noen påfører seg selv helseskade etter å ha lest noe på forumet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Vil til sist si at dette ikke er et stort problem på forumet, men er ment som en føre var regel. Og en regel som vil bli brukt med varsomhet.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Hawk'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Hawk'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='65'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Knut&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://homefree.freewave.no/%7Es1331172/manic/bilder/hatha.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 158&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/65#65'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #65 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 08:48:50&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=65;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#64'&gt;Sitat fra Hawk&lt;/a&gt; , 07.07.2007 , 08:21:42:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Bakgrunnen til dette er en erkjennelse av at mange som leser forumet bruker dette som oppslagsverk og inspirator for eget kosthold. Det ville således være trist om noen påfører seg selv helseskade etter å ha lest noe på forumet. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Så hvis jeg som veganer sier at jeg ikke tar B12-supplement (hvilket jeg ikke tar) så har jeg ingen rett til å si dette fordi det kan føre til at noen tror at man ikke trenger B12-supplement og bli syke av det? Hvor formynderske skal man være på forumet? Skal man ikke til en viss grad kunne overlate til den enkelte å tenke selv? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;Sitat:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Vil til sist si at dette ikke er et stort problem på forumet, men er ment som en føre var regel. Og en regel som vil bli brukt med varsomhet. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det sier de alle. Politiet skal bare avlytte de styggeste forbrytelsene, dersom de får blanko-fullmakten til avlytning som de ber om. I praksis viser det seg at regler og fullmakter gjerne har en tendens til å utvide sitt virkeområde når de først har fått en liten innledende aksept. Så jeg er skeptisk. Og jeg venter i spenning på å se ordlyden i den kommende sensur-regelen dere planlegger. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; "-Nei, jeg tar ikke omega 3." Forskningen viser at det er sunt å ta omega 3. Så det er å sette andres liv i fare at jeg forteller dette. Gasp. Tankepolitiet står bak neste sving. &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 07.07.2007 , 08:50:42 av Knut&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=sauterelle'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://homefree.freewave.no/%7Es1331172/manic/organic.html'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;WWW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='66'/&gt; &lt;b&gt;Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt; &lt;i&gt;Tidl. Medlem&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/66#66'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #66 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 12:16:27&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=66;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  ..vel, jeg trener vanligvis mye og intensivt. Langt mer enn gjennomsnittet, før det ble boller i ovnen. ..og jeg har i høyeste grad erfart at ernæring ER superviktig. Om noe mangler noe eller har fått for mye av, så merkes dette lett på nedsatte prestasjoner eller andre (diffuse) kroppslige signaler. Et eksempel på det var en periode på noen mnd hvor jeg fikk altfor lite kalcium uten å selv være klar over at inntaket var for dårlig. En snikende og tiltakende "bristfølelse" i leggbeinet og "knusningsfølelse" i de små beina i fotbladene gjorde at jeg etterhvert fattet mistanke. Da jeg sjekket opp innholdet i multitilskuddet mitt, som jeg til da hadde trodd var optimalt, viste det seg at jeg bare hadde fått ca 1/5 av anbefalt inntak i noen mnd's tid, og dette gav altså merkbare utslag. Etter en tid med litt overdosering ble "kalsiummangelfølelsen" borte og jeg kunne gå ned på normal dosering og alt var bra. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Om jeg inntar for lite proteiner merkes dette også lett på at musklene fortere "surner" ved aktivitet. Magnesiummangel merkes lett ved muskelkramper som står i misforhold til belastning, og det er sikkert forskjellige vis å merke mangler av andre stoffer på også. Jo mer en lytter til kroppen sin, jo tydeligere kan en høre den snakke. Overdoseringer med b-vitaminer gav meg til eksempel hudproblemer, og jeg synes jeg kjenner at noe ikke er helt som det skal være med leverfunksjonen om jeg får mye d-vitamin fra andre kilder enn sol(ariums)lys. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;Sitat:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Hvor formynderske skal man være på forumet? Skal man ikke til en viss grad kunne overlate til den enkelte å tenke selv? &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Om folk tenker selv vil de nok finne ut av ting selv, men det kan jo være greit å lære av andres feil også? Jo yngre man er jo færre feil har man rukket å gjøre, og en kan spare seg for mange ubehageligheter ved å i den minste ha andres erfaringer i bakhodet før man velger å ta stilling til hva man selv skal gjøre. &lt;br /&gt; ..erfaringer som det at en faktisk &lt;i&gt;blir&lt;/i&gt; uopplagt og syk (dårlig hud, dårlig fysisk og kognitiv prestasjonsevne, depresjon) om man prøver å leve utelukkende på spaghetti med ketchup over en periode. ..eller at seriøse sportslige utskeielser faktisk ikke lar seg kombinere med frukterianisme med mindre en inkluderer korn, nøtter, belgfrukter, frø og ikke-frukterianske kilder til bl.a. B12 (tilskudd fra sjøgress? ølgjær?) og kalcium (av alger?) ettersom ingen av de tillatte ingrediensene i frukterianismen inneholder (nok av) disse sporstoffene). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Min høyst personlige erfaring er at "mind over matter" dessverre ikke gjelder på idrettsarenaen, så kan hvem som helst velge å godta konklusjonen min (og de aller aller fleste andre "atleter" sin) eller gjøre sine egne forsøk for å etterprøve og evt. motbevise eller understreke disse "ubestridelige vitenskapelige fakta" som her er slengt på bordet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt; &lt;br /&gt; ..i bunn og grunn er jeg altså helt enig i at det IKKE bør tillates å hevde her på forumet at t.eks. behovet for b-12 bare er en løgn, så lenge den som hevder dette ikke har solid dokumentasjon på at dette er tilfelle.&lt;/b&gt; Om vår kjøre venn Mango til eksempel hadde vært aktiv mellomdistanseløper med gode konkurranseresultater etter mange år som frukterianer, da ville jeg ha ansett det som en form for solid dokumentasjon. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; (beklager et kanskje unødvendig langt innlegg, håper ingen ble irriterte av det)  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 07.07.2007 , 12:21:57 av Line&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='67'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Miriam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/bunny.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Jeg spiser ikke mine &lt;br /&gt;venner&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 191&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/67#67'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #67 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 18:33:33&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=67;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#63'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 07.07.2007 , 06:45:55:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Jeg synes posten til Miriam dessverre illustrerer at jeg ikke var krass nok. Jeg vil ikke definiere fruktarianisme som en vegetarretning. Det går derimot inn under spiseforstyrrelser. Dessverre kan mennesker sulte seg ihjel og leve svært skadelig for seg selv og likevel hardnakket med smil påstå at dette er riktig. Det er ikke noe nytt, og jeg blir egentlig litt sinna når de hevder at det finnes dekning for at det ikke er noe problem. For meg er det overhode ingen tvil om at dette skyldes religion, og jeg reagerte derfor på forsøkene på å forsvare basisen rasjonelt. Mannen blir ikke gammel dessverre og mangelsykdommene har han nok alt kjent og kommer nok til å kjenne mer av i framtiden. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det jeg mener er at da jeg ikke fikk så mye mat hadde jeg en metthets følelse, som gjorde at jeg ikke trengte mat. Når du kritiserer så tenker jeg på mamma og pappa sine påstander &lt;br /&gt; - Et kosthold uten kjøtt kan man ikke leve med &lt;br /&gt; - Du blir syk &lt;br /&gt; - du kommer til og slutte og vokse når du ikke får i deg nok proteiner. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Forskjellen er at du mener at et kosthold basert på bare frukt ikke er riktig. Som sagt kanskje kroppen hans har vent seg til dette kostholdet og at kroppen synes det er greit. Jeg synes faktisk det er behaglig og være sulten selv om det er galt, kanskje han har det slik også &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Griser er smartere enn hunder, så det så&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Miriam'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='68'/&gt; &lt;b&gt;Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt; &lt;i&gt;Tidl. Medlem&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/68#68'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #68 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 21:24:58&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=68;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Forskjellen på å hevde at veg*anisme og fraukterianisme er fullgode kosthold ligger i at de helsemessige aspektene ved veg*anisme er solid dokumentert, mens fruktariansime ikke er det. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Selv om Mango fortsatt står og går og er istand til å bedrive lett fysisk aktivitet, slik vi må om vi skal leve i denne verden; å gå i trapper, bære sekk vår på ryggen eller å løfte og bære ting og tang over lengre eller kortere avstander er helt elementære ting, og å få til alt slikt uten at det føles det som store anstrengelser er et minimumskrav. De fleste underernærte mennesker er faktisk istand til å utføre slike dagligdagse gjøremål. Å kunne utfolde seg sportslig krever litt mer, og her kan vi lettere se forskjell på de som er "riktig" ernærte og på de som mangler essensielle næringsstoffer. Bl.a. proteininnholdet i frukt (eller i grønnsaker, for den saks skyld) er altfor lavt til at en som bare spiser slikt vil kunne hevde seg sportslig blant folk som spiser mat med høyere proteininnhold. &lt;br /&gt; Derfor er en veg*aner berettighet til å si at frukterianisme ikke er et fullverdig kosthold, uten at det kan sammenliknes med at en kjøtteter sier at veg*anisme ikke er mulig. ..for det foreligger solid dokumentasjon. &lt;br /&gt; Denne er for eksempel ganske tungtveiende i forhold til de argumentene frukterianismen foreløpig har å komme med: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.dietitians.ca/news/downloads/vegetarian_position_paper_2003.pdf'&gt;http://www.dietitians.ca/news/downloads/vegetarian_position_paper_2003.pdf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; litt om de som har skrevet den rapporten: &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=8509598&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract'&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=8509598&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://www.dietitians.ca/'&gt;http://www.dietitians.ca/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt; de henholdsvis 67000 og 5000 "medlemmene" deres er utdannede ernæringseksperter som baserer sine uttalelser på seriøs forkning istedet for bare egen erfaring eller sterk religiøs overbevisning, og der ligger hele forskjellen.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 07.07.2007 , 21:35:07 av Line&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='69'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' style='color: green;' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=paal'&gt;&lt;b&gt;paal&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt; &lt;b&gt;Forum-administrator&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/starmod.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/p3.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; en måned som &lt;br /&gt;vegetarianer = ett &lt;br /&gt;slaktedyr mindre&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 598&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/69#69'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #69 - &lt;/b&gt;07.07.2007 , 23:52:45&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=69;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#62'&gt;Sitat fra Knut&lt;/a&gt; , 07.07.2007 , 03:59:57:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#60'&gt;Sitat fra paal&lt;/a&gt; , 07.07.2007 , 00:59:36:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Noen i Bergensgruppen til NV jobber med en forum-regel som vil gjøre det forbudt å komme med påstander som motstrider vitenskapelige fakta (som vegetar-miljøet også støtter), f.eks. i spørsmålet om B12. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Å forby noen å motstride vitenskapelige fakta; eller heller "fakta", synes jeg smaker av meningstotalitarisme. Som du nok også vet Pål, så er vitenskapelige sannheter hele tiden i utvikling, og tidvis viser det seg at vitenskapen tar ganske så feil. Skal det da være forbudt å hevde at man er uenig i vitenskapens slutninger så er det svært trist for alle de som forfekter sannheter (ofte her også "sannheter") som vitenskapen foreløpig bare avfeier som vås. Og vitenskapelige "fakta" har vi jo sett konsekvensen av for eksempel i forbindelse med thalodomid-skandalen for noen år tilbake; og også i mange andre tilfeller. Om noen hevder at B12 ikke er nødvendig i en diskusjon, så får du heller dynge på med argumentasjon som viser at personen tar feil. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hei Knut! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg forstår godt poenget ditt - og dette &lt;i&gt;kan&lt;/i&gt; være et vanskelig grenseland - så absolutt! Intensjonen her er å være føre var, og ikke å forby nyansert debatt. Spørsmålet er bare hvordan og hvor denne skal foregå. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Foreslår at vi lar denne diskusjonen om den nye forumregelen ligge til over helga, da det ferdige utkastet til ny forum-regel foreligger. Da kan vi også ha diskusjonen i en egen forum-tråd, slik at den ikke forkludrer fruktarisme-debatten &lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;Pål W. Thorbjørnsen&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Informasjonssekretær i Norsk Vegetarforening&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=paal'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=paal'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='70'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/70#70'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #70 - &lt;/b&gt;08.07.2007 , 02:19:07&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=70;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Synes du oppsumerer veldig bra Line. Poenget er at man trenger ikke være død for å være under eller feilernært. Fruktarianere er definitivt feil- og underernært. Hverken organer, muskelatur, nerver eller hjerne fungerer skikkelig med et så mangelfult kosthold og langtidseffekten er at kroppen får varige eller langtidsskader. For å ta en sammenligning. Det er som å fjerne bærebjelker i et hus, det kan godt hende det står en stund, men før eller siden ramler så konstruksjonen sammen.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;  « &lt;i&gt;Siste endring: 08.07.2007 , 02:20:03 av Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/i&gt; »  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='71'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Helene'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Helene&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/lovebird.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 522&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/71#71'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #71 - &lt;/b&gt;09.07.2007 , 06:10:25&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=71;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/45#53'&gt;Sitat fra Mango the Fruitarian&lt;/a&gt; , 06.07.2007 , 18:19:07:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Problemet med befolkningen/sammfunnet er at det/vi er alle blitt hjernevasket.. vi siterer ting som vi har hørt, som vi tror er sannheten.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; få lærer å tenke for seg sjølv.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Helene, lurt eller ei, jeg anbefaler frukt til alle.. ja.. og desverre , er det du tenker fakta bare rykter.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg baserer ikke min kunnskap på rykter. Det jeg "tenker som fakta" er hva utallige ernæringsfysiologer, eksperter og forskere har funnet ut ved å analysere verdier i blodet, i ben- og muskelmassen og med lang tids tester. Det er vitenskapelig bevist og denne vitenskapen er basert på oss mennesker og hvordan vi reagerer på ulik type ernæring. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg er dog personlig fullstendig enig med deg i at vår verden "hjernevasker" samfunnet og det du sier om medisinering av alt mulig. Jeg tror, og det er det også mange vitenskapelige studier som støtter, at mange sykdommer kan forebygges gjennom kosten og at imunforsvaret kan forsterkes. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Jeg ser at du har gode erfaringer med dit liv som fruktarianer. Det er flott for deg. Kanskje det er slik at ulike kropper tåler ulik type behandling? Akkurat dette vet jeg ikke nok om hvorvidt det er store individuelle forskjeller. &lt;br /&gt; Det jeg vet er at jeg selv kom inn på en skole hvor halvparten av opptaksprøven var fysisk krevende. Dette krevde lang tids hardtrening og jeg vet at MIN kropp hadde ALDRI, ALDRI kommet inn på denne skolen på bare frukt. Da hadde den endt på sykehus.. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg er nå ut i et yrke som er fysisk krevende og det kreves at et visst fysisk nivå med både styrke og kondisjon opprettholdes og jeg vet fortsatt at det ikke vil skje med bare frukt. &lt;br /&gt; Jeg er forøvrig helt enig med det som Line skriver her. Jeg ser hun baserer seg på vitenskapelig fakta og i tillegg egne erfaringer som jeg gjenkjenner. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det jeg vil frem til er at når du sier at man blir syk av ikke å bare spise rå frukt, ja da sier jeg nei. For JEG gjør ikke det. JEG blir syk av bare å spise rå frukt. Derfor kan jeg si at det du sier er ikke riktig for meg. &lt;br /&gt; For min del har jeg vært nysgjerrig på hvordan et typisk kosthold for deg ser ut og hvordan du får i deg anbefalt mengde protein med de essensielle (livsviktige for å holde igang det innvendige systemet i kroppen) aminosyrene. &lt;br /&gt; Dette fordi jeg synes alle sider ved kosthold og ulike retninger er interresante. Forøvrig er det jo bare flott at du trives så godt med ditt valg &lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; Det jeg ville frem til var at hvis det sitter andre som er som meg der ute og får anbefalt å bare spise rå frukt, da ville de etterhvert fått problemer. Andre ville kanskje ikke det, det vet jeg jo ikke. Men at alle kropper kun kan kjøres på rå frukt er hvertfall ikke noen, eller for den saks skyld den eneste, "sannhet". &lt;img border='0' title='Smilefjes' alt='Smilefjes' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif'/&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt; 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&lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.davidlebovitz.com/archives/img/0106/limes.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 680&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/72#72'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #72 - &lt;/b&gt;31.07.2007 , 19:46:52&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=72;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Dette har ikke fått med meg før nå faktisk - men det intervjuet var utrolig interresant. &lt;br /&gt; Har det vært trykket i avisa enda? &lt;br /&gt; Hvis ikke håper jeg noen kan informere meg om når det kommer.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;keep the faith&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=My'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=My'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='73'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=qinqong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;qinqong&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.jamesclairlewis.com/animation/alexgrey/circle.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; © copyright&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 92&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/73#73'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #73 - &lt;/b&gt;07.08.2007 , 20:41:21&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=73;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  oupsss.. &lt;br /&gt; har desverre ikke fått med meg denne tråden tidligere, men det kan nok komme av at jeg i henhold til en del innlegg på tråden er både sinnsyk og egentlig død av mangelsykdommer. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;takk til "mangoman"&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt; for en balansert fremstilling, og faktisk er jeg sjokkert over hvor harde hatter man har på seg her i forumet, og det begynner å likne på hjelmer, faktisk. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; for å sitere fra tråden.: &lt;b&gt;"sorry ass"&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; 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| &lt;span onclick='window.open(&amp;apos;http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=setmsn;msnname=qinqong&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;height=80,width=340,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no&amp;apos;); return false' style='cursor: pointer;' class='imgwindowbg'&gt;MSN&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='74'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/74#74'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #74 - &lt;/b&gt;08.08.2007 , 04:26:20&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=74;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Poenget var qingqong at folk overlevde Auschwitz og, mener du da at kostholdet de hadde var sundt? Ja, jeg mener mangomann har en alvorlig spiseforstyrrelse, det er det ingen tvil om.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='75'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=qinqong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;qinqong&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.jamesclairlewis.com/animation/alexgrey/circle.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; © copyright&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 92&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/75#75'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #75 - &lt;/b&gt;08.08.2007 , 04:38:08&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=75;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/60#74'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 08.08.2007 , 04:26:20:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Poenget var qingqong at folk overlevde Auschwitz og, mener du da at kostholdet de hadde var sundt? Ja, jeg mener mangomann har en alvorlig spiseforstyrrelse, det er det ingen tvil om. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; ja, jeg oppfattet din mening om dette tidlig i tråden.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; så hva med alle andre som ikke spiser det samme som deg, og gir blaffen i B12 og alikevel ikke har noen problemer, dokumentert i form av blodprøver? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;EAT RAW LIVE LONG&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=qinqong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=qinqong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='window.open(&amp;apos;http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=setmsn;msnname=qinqong&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;height=80,width=340,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no&amp;apos;); return false' style='cursor: pointer;' class='imgwindowbg'&gt;MSN&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='76'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/76#76'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #76 - &lt;/b&gt;08.08.2007 , 06:06:12&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=76;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Å bare spise frukt er ikke bare b12 mangel. Det er mangel på en lang rekke mineraler, mangel på de fleste aminosyrer og mangel på flere vitaminer. Kroppen fungerer delvis fordi den tærer i stykker ben og muskelvev til det ikke er noe igjen, men tidlig aldring og sykdom er garantert.  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a target='_blank' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=mailto;user=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;E-post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='77'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=qinqong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;qinqong&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.jamesclairlewis.com/animation/alexgrey/circle.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; © copyright&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 92&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/77#77'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #77 - &lt;/b&gt;08.08.2007 , 06:29:59&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=77;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/75#76'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 08.08.2007 , 06:06:12:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Å bare spise frukt er ikke bare b12 mangel. Det er mangel på en lang rekke mineraler, mangel på de fleste aminosyrer og mangel på flere vitaminer. Kroppen fungerer delvis fordi den tærer i stykker ben og muskelvev til det ikke er noe igjen, men tidlig aldring og sykdom er garantert. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; jammen jeg kjenner fruktarianere som også har vært dette i 20 år, og de ser uforkammelig sunne og friske ut, og har ikke vært hos leger de siste 20 årene, med unntak av en trafikkulykke.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; so what? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; selv kjenner jeg mennesker som lever av suppeposer og grandiosa, cola og øl, og dette er ikke akurat åndshøvdinger, men de spiser da gjerne en biff i halvåret i templet, "steakhouse" (biffhuset) eller noe slikt noe. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; altså, hva er spiseforstyrrelser? &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;EAT RAW LIVE LONG&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=qinqong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=qinqong'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;span onclick='window.open(&amp;apos;http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=setmsn;msnname=qinqong&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;&amp;apos;,&amp;apos;height=80,width=340,menubar=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no&amp;apos;); return false' style='cursor: pointer;' class='imgwindowbg'&gt;MSN&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a name='78'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Helene'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Helene&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='' alt='' src='http://www.vegetar.com/yabbfiles/avatars/lovebird.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 522&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/78#78'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #78 - &lt;/b&gt;08.08.2007 , 09:18:43&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=78;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  Spiseforstyrrelser handler om å bruke mat og kontroll av mat som midlertidig løsning på forskjellige livsproblemer. I IKS har vi denne generelle definisjonen: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Man har en spiseforstyrrelse når tanker, følelser og handlinger i forhold til mat, kropp og vekt går utover livskvalitet og fungering i hverdagen. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det finnes ikke noe absolutt punkt for når vanlig opptatthet av ernæring og helse glir over i et forstyrret forhold til mat, kropp og følelser. Det er en glidende skala fra nyttårsslankeren via personen med et problematisk forhold til mat og til en fullt utviklet spiseforstyrrelse. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Det unaturlige forholdet til mat, kropp og vekt er symptom på følelsesmessige og personlige problemer. Å overspise, sulte, kaste opp og tvangstrene brukes bevisst eller ubevisst i forsøk på å unngå problematiske og uoversiktlige tanker og følelser. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;b&gt;Årsaker&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Årsakene til at noen utvikler en spiseforstyrrelse er sammensatte. &lt;br /&gt; Psykologiske og sosiale faktorer ligger ofte til grunn for et senere misbruk av mat. &lt;br /&gt; Kulturelle faktorer som slankepress, sykelig magert kvinneideal og kvinneroller i stor endring må ses som sentrale mht. å utløse et misbruk.Matmisbruk er et symptom på følelsesmessige konflikter. Å overspise, sulte, kaste opp og tvangstrene brukes bevisst eller ubevisst i et forsøk på å skyve vekk problemer som man ikke klarer å løse på andre måter. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; (det over er hentet fra IKS.no) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Generelt kan man si at de som har spiseforstyrrelser har problemer med sitt forhold til mat. Det kan være at de ikke klarer tanken på for mange kalorier, fett eller de kan overspise pga. følelser inni seg. De kan også tenke ekstremt mye på hva de spiser, det er flere som hevder at f.eks. bodybuildere ofte lider av spiseforstyrrelser. Fordi de har et "forstyrret" forhold til mat. Ortorexi er en spiseforstyrrelse hvor man er ekstremt opptatt av å spise sunt, ikke spise mat som er kreftfremkallende, farlig og usunn. Men spise nøyaktig hva man behøver og holde seg helt strikt unna det "normale" folk tillater seg. Det finnes også andre spiseforstyrrelser som ikke er spesifisert. Disse kalles gjerne EDNOS (eating disorder not other spesified). Dette kan være alt egentlig, som navnet egentlig sier.. Det er rett og slett flere som sliter med sitt forhold til mat, spising osv. generelt og som ikke "passer inn" i de andre kategoriene som man ofte tenker på som spiseforstyrrede. &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=Helene'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=Helene'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logget&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a name='79'/&gt; &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=My'&gt;&lt;b&gt;My&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://www.davidlebovitz.com/archives/img/0106/limes.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 680&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/79#79'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #79 - &lt;/b&gt;08.08.2007 , 21:07:11&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=79;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  spør igjen jeg: har denne artikkelen vært trykket i avisen enda?  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;a href='#top'&gt;Tilbake til toppen&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='bottom' align='left' class='windowbg2'&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 49%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 50%; text-align: right;' class='small'&gt;    &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='float: left; width: 99%; text-align: left;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;hr width='100%' size='1' style='margin: 5px 0pt; padding: 0pt;' class='hr'/&gt;&lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; font-size: 10px; font-family: verdana,sans-serif; max-height: 200px; width: 99%;' class='scroll'&gt;keep the faith&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class='dividertop' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 5px; margin-top: 5px;'&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 59%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=My'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Vis Profil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imsend;to=My'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Personlig Melding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 40%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/ip.gif'/&gt; IP Logge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='displaycontainer'&gt;&lt;table width='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='4' border='0' align='center' style='table-layout: fixed;' class='bordercolor'&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width='140' valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt;&lt;a rel='nofollow' href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=WonderGong'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div class='small'&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' title='*' alt='*' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/stargold.gif'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;img border='0' style='max-width: 100px; max-height: 100px;' title='' alt='' src='http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9180/nikolai2cm7.jpg'/&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Innlegg: 843&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;td valign='top' align='left' class='windowbg'&gt; &lt;div class='dividerbot' style='float: left; width: 99%; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 4px; margin-bottom: 2px;'&gt; &lt;span style='padding: 2px; float: left; width: 3%; text-align: center;' class='small'&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/80#80'&gt;&lt;img border='0' style='vertical-align: middle;' title='' alt='' src='http://vegetarforum.net/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/xx.gif'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; width: 46%; vertical-align: middle;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;Re: Fruktarianer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class='small'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Svar #80 - &lt;/b&gt;09.08.2007 , 02:31:33&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style='float: left; text-align: right; width: 50%;' class='small'&gt;  &lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1159292579;quote=80;title=PostReply'&gt;&lt;span class='imgwindowbg'&gt;Sitat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style='overflow: auto; float: left; width: 99%;' class='message'&gt;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/75#77'&gt;Sitat fra qinqong&lt;/a&gt; , 08.08.2007 , 06:29:59:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='http://vegetarforum.net/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1159292579/75#76'&gt;Sitat fra Nikolai Torp Dragnes&lt;/a&gt; , 08.08.2007 , 06:06:12:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style='width: 90%;' class='quote'&gt;Å bare spise frukt er ikke bare b12 mangel. Det er mangel på en lang rekke mineraler, mangel på de fleste aminosyrer og mangel på flere vitaminer. Kroppen fungerer delvis fordi den tærer i stykker ben og muskelvev til det ikke er noe igjen, men tidlig aldring og sykdom er garantert. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; jammen jeg kjenner fruktarianere som også har vært dette i 20 år, og de ser uforkammelig sunne og friske ut, og har ikke vært hos leger de siste 20 årene, med unntak av en trafikkulykke.. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; so what? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; selv kjenner jeg mennesker som lever av suppeposer og grandiosa, cola og øl, og dette er ikke akurat åndshøvdinger, men de spiser da gjerne en biff i halvåret i templet, "steakhouse" (biffhuset
